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bigdom86
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: garage defender Reply with quote

just moved into a new place with a new garage and looking to install a garage defender. there are so many about and so many different brands, what would you guys recommend? currently use almax chain with squire lock to lock my bike up but need something secure for my garage door

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PostPosted: 11:34 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Advertising you have stuff to steal inside? I'd just bolt that fucker down with almax and ground anchors, 2 if you feel flush.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: re Reply with quote

hmmmm you may be right, perhaps will just whack a ground anchor in if landlord is happy with that
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't want to advertise I have cool stuff to steal, so fitted two of these:

If you paint the bolts to match the door and either paint or don't fit the keyhole covers they are pretty discreet:

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUyMFgxNTIw/z/TbUAAOxyTjNSfhF7/$(KGrHqMOKpgFJjrGM1g9BSfhF7Cw8w~~60_57.JPG
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have similar toDrDonny, although also seen a lot of garages with defenders on them in a block of garages near where I live.

I take it you don't have another means of access to the garage, like a side door? If you do then securing from the inside is also an option.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: re Reply with quote

just access from front unfortunately, i live in a block of flats and have a garage round the back, luckily it is all lit up and most of my neighbours seem to be 60+ but is still SE London so get a bit paranoid
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monkeybiker
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've fit them enfield bolt locks as well for the same reasons given. Them big yellow lock things just scream out there is a bike in here.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a garage in a block and use a garage defender.

I appreciate the opinion that you may be advertising there may be something to steal inside.

However the fact that anyone can see me working on the bike or taking the bike in or out of the garage means any local scrotes know what's in there anyway.

The more covert locks are indeed better but the garage defender is
a cheap (£45 of ebay), easy to fit alternative and should keep out all but the most determined thieves.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The garage in my current place is 'en block'. The door has a 4-point locking mechanism, so marginally better than your usual up and over. The garages either side seem to always be open, so they will hopefully attract any unwanted attention.

Discretion as the others say, is the key. My garage is not overlooked or visible from the road so very few people know which garage it is stored in. Oh, it's a Versys too so hardly desirable!
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUyMFgxNTIw/z/TbUAAOxyTjNSfhF7/$(KGrHqMOKpgFJjrGM1g9BSfhF7Cw8w~~60_57.JPG

+1, they've called Enfield locks. ~£24 for a pair, far cheaper than a garish garage defender. You could even go crazy and fit a pair either side.

Reminds me, I need to repaint my keyhole covers. Pikeys' eyes are drawn to shiny things.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

LustyLew wrote:
My garage is not overlooked or visible from the road so no one can see it being broken into


FTFY


I have a single garage in a block. All the ones not visible from the road had the padlocks cut off one afternoon. Owner of one of those garages saw the white van leaving as he was pulling up and then saw all the locks had been cut. Being a decent chap he contacted the other owners and stuck some new padlocks on them until they could get down there. Most owners were down there that night with bigger hasps and much bigger padlocks.
I was fortunate that my garage is both visible from the road and with no external locks to cut.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a electric garage door so it's quite difficult to open when the springs are under pressure holding it down.

Also, 30ft drive and 2 cars parked infront of said garage door Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used one of these garage defenders for years. Its been attacked (hard to tell to what extent) on a few occasions and its still in one piece minus chipped paint.

Could 'upgrade' the padlock to one of these ABUS locks potentially, although the one thats included has been fine for me.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted a garage defender and was worried about advertising the contents of the garage, so i just painted some old silver and white paint over it, doesn't stick out like a sore thumb now
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My shed is protected by a diy Crystal Maze type security setup. Without knowledge of what things to pull/push/lift as you turn on a specific and unique homemade key, you'd need to make an awful lot of noise to get in to it. And it's always viewable via t'internets.

To get to the bikes in the back garden also requires knowledge of how the gate lock operates, though not quite so involved as the shed.

Beats mass produced stuff with their well known workarounds any day.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Hammers wrote:
My shed is protected by a diy Crystal Maze type security setup. Without knowledge of what things to pull/push/lift as you turn on a specific and unique homemade key, you'd need to make an awful lot of noise to get in to it. And it's always viewable via t'internets.

To get to the bikes in the back garden also requires knowledge of how the gate lock operates, though not quite so involved as the shed.

Beats mass produced stuff with their well known workarounds any day.


And the paving slabs are rigged to blow darts?
Nice. Wink
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 16 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

+some more, for the enfield locks.

Fitted one on my up and over door, though I really should put the other side on as well. Since moving into the house I was always too lazy to get a garage key cut; I had to break into my garage about 3 times for that. Kept either losing the key or locking them inside, so it was sort of good that it was easy to break into. I either did it by jimmying the locking tabs or once I got a lock picking guide up on my phone and did it in about 10mins Surprised If I didn't care about the door it would of been so easy, it's like tinfoil really.

I'd like a 9ft gate next so I can leave the door open without the friendly scrap men seeing what's in there whilst I'm tinkering. Utter fucking scally nob heads.
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 16 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
And the paving slabs are rigged to blow darts?

Not yet.... Thinking

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PostPosted: 12:11 - 16 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had some of those Enfield locks fitted to my garage when it was broken into, the locks were stronger than the garage door frame. Laughing

A garage defender might be advertising that there's something of value in there but it advertises it like this:

https://i.imgur.com/ni7m6EW.gif
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 16 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep snakes in your garage, that puts a lot of people off, even more if they are venomous.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 16 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

bladeblaster wrote:
keep snakes in your garage, that puts a lot of people off, even more if they are venomous.


But do your snakes respond to 'SSSSSSSSITTT!!' whenever you want to go into the garage? Pale
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 16 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:


But do your snakes respond to 'SSSSSSSSITTT!!' whenever you want to go into the garage? Pale


they generally just lie around not doing much
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 17 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
DrDonnyBrago wrote:
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUyMFgxNTIw/z/TbUAAOxyTjNSfhF7/$(KGrHqMOKpgFJjrGM1g9BSfhF7Cw8w~~60_57.JPG

+1, they've called Enfield locks. ~£24 for a pair, far cheaper than a garish garage defender. You could even go crazy and fit a pair either side.

Reminds me, I need to repaint my keyhole covers. Pikeys' eyes are drawn to shiny things.


Wotcha.

Fitted some of these just after Xmas following an unsuccessful attempt at breaking in. . . . . . I painted the covers yesterday. Thumbs Up
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