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adam66787
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 10 Mar 2016    Post subject: How i failed my mod2 test Reply with quote

I took my mod2 test on tuesday and failed, I'm rebooking it in a weeks time. I was going towards a roundabout and there was three lanes and two that lead to a dual carriageway. I was on the right lane that led to the right lane on the dual carriageway as i went over the roundabout doing all my mirror and shoulder checks correctly i was led to the second lane as moving over to the left lane before the roundabout was to late to do that at that stage. After going over the roundabout and as i was on the second lane i carried traveling up the dual carriageway on the second lane, seeing that there was traffic to my left i came to the conclusion i could just stay in that lane, i do realise now i should not of done that. Everything else with the test i did ok, just a few miners for leaving my indicator on once for too long as i forgot and not being positioned close enough to the left on some junctions. If i did not carry on on the right of the dual carriageway i would of passed but i learn from my mistakes i guess.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 10 Mar 2016    Post subject: Re: How i failed my mod2 test Reply with quote

adam66787 wrote:
Everything else i did ok, just a few miners



We enjoyed it too laddie

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PostPosted: 22:50 - 10 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha great one XD you made me laugh there
Minor i mean
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 10 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't do anything wrong by going into lane 2 (the right lane) but made the mistake of staying there. In my experience on especially on NSL limits both instructors and examiners like to see confidence and umph rather than fannying about. Hit the speed limit and stay there (even though it is a limit). Ideally you should slotted into lane 1 when the first gap became available if the traffic to your left was traveling at the same speed or faster preventing you from doing this then that's why you failed as you where creating a hazard and blocking faster moving cars behind the examiner putting him in danger.

Personally I found NSL a little too much during training and am thankful my test didn't include such roads. I'll be sure to revisit and re encounter them once I've got something that has decent power behind it.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 10 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
In my experience on especially on NSL limits both instructors and examiners like to see confidence and umph rather than fannying about. Hit the speed limit and stay there (even though it is a limit). Ideally you should slotted into lane 1 when the first gap became available if the traffic to your left was traveling at the same speed or faster preventing you from doing this then that's why you failed as you where creating a hazard and blocking faster moving cars behind the examiner putting him in danger.

Personally I found NSL a little too much during training and am thankful my test didn't include such roads. I'll be sure to revisit and re encounter them once I've got something that has decent power behind it.


Good advice, I like to accelerate quickly where safe but I ride like a granny. (Only slightly less incontinent)
Both my instructor and examiner frowned upon my lack of 'making progress'.
Although I do think it may have been that they were concerned I was not aware of the speed signs/limits (and it was that, I still struggle to notice the fucking things.)

I got lucky on test day, there was roadworks so I just pretended it was a tennis match.
For the record, getting lost and/or mishearing the examiners directions is absolutely fine with them, as long as you ride safely, I got lost twice on my 'solo ride' part.
Also it can't hurt to try to 'lose' the examiner where safe and within the law, they can't nock points off if they can't see you. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont be too hard on yourself, it happens and in real life you'd have slotted in after a while and not really caused any issue (unless you were going really slowly Razz). The more important thing is that you know that provided you don't do that next time, you're in great shape for a clean pass!

I failed my mod2 for waiting in a queue and not riding up the bus lane to my left to take the left turn at the end of the road. Middle of the day and the bus lane was open for cars and I never spotted it - major fault Shocked

The other one my instructor and I disagreed on was at a roundabout with two lanes, left marked straight on and left, right marked straight on and right, two lanes going straight on, you approach the rounabout in the right lane with traffic in the left. The front three cars turn left. I exited the roundabout holding my lane, into the right lane of the dual carriageway, then did my checks and pulled into the left lane. He reckoned I should have "exited the roundabout in the left lane where possible" - possibly true but even now I'd far rather avoid changing lanes on a roundabout, just more scope for confusion.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

B5234FT wrote:

The other one my instructor and I disagreed on was at a roundabout with two lanes, left marked straight on and left, right marked straight on and right, two lanes going straight on, you approach the rounabout in the right lane with traffic in the left. The front three cars turn left. I exited the roundabout holding my lane, into the right lane of the dual carriageway, then did my checks and pulled into the left lane. He reckoned I should have "exited the roundabout in the left lane where possible" - possibly true but even now I'd far rather avoid changing lanes on a roundabout, just more scope for confusion.


My instructors were pretty insistent that you exit in the lane you enter in. I'd tend to be a bit more flexible if it is safe to do so though, and I am reasonably sure my car instructor said exit in the left if safe, some years back.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't talk too much about advanced training since I haven't done any but to my understanding from videos I've watched the safest way to take a roundabout is the most direct approach from your entry point to the exit you wish to take. In the case of going straight ahead that would be ignoring all lane markings and literally just traveling in a straight line thus reducing time spent on the roundabout and being exposed to danger. I'd also be of the realization that the actual amount of times you get to do that would be limited to zero unless night time riding and or little traffic. Again I haven't done any advanced training so feel free to adjust where appropriate for accuracy.

Anyway, OP.. lets not confuse you or this topic.

On the test and unless the instructor tells you otherwise go straight ahead at every roundabout and stay in lane 1 at all times unless;

1) road markings direct you otherwise
2) road signs direct you otherwise
3) there's a hazard ahead

I'm sure there's more but that's just to get the basics out the way.

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PostPosted: 21:42 - 13 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

B5234FT wrote:
I failed my mod2 for waiting in a queue and not riding up the bus lane to my left to take the left turn at the end of the road. Middle of the day and the bus lane was open for cars and I never spotted it - major fault Shocked


They told you not using a bus lane was a major i.e insta-fail? Thought it'd just be a minor for lack of progress? Could be wrong.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hefty wrote:
B5234FT wrote:
I failed my mod2 for waiting in a queue and not riding up the bus lane to my left to take the left turn at the end of the road. Middle of the day and the bus lane was open for cars and I never spotted it - major fault Shocked


They told you not using a bus lane was a major i.e insta-fail? Thought it'd just be a minor for lack of progress? Could be wrong.


I cant recall which box it fell into but yes, it was a major fault and thus a failure.

With regards to the roundabout thing, from when I learned to drive until now, on cars, bikes or anything else, I navigate roundabouts according to the lane I enter them in as a fairly hard rule. MUCH less ambiguous to save the lane change for later if I have to make it, but generally if Im slow moving (trailer etc) ill be in the left lane anyway, so it's rarely an issue. I just cant see any logic in adding confusion to a busy roundabout situation by trying to change lanes on the roundabout.

TBH, even if I end up in the wrong lane for where I want to go, I'll tend to commit to it, take the matching exit, then re-route later, or turn around down the road and come back, nothing worse than indecision/dawdlers/random indicators on roundabouts!
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 14 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, OP, I failed my car test, after this kind of conversation.
Examiner: Do you realize what you've just done wrong?
Me: Nope.
Examiner: You should have given the way to vehicles going from the right at the intersection.
Me: But there were none.
Examiner: You didn't even look (I have), and I don't care.
Me: Well,
Examiner: I can't let you get the licence at this conditions. Giving the way is the most important rule on the road (I agree).

The road was empty and even a one-direction only, so legally speaking, I couldn't even get in a position where I would be obligated to the a way. Well, I was a kid and the examiner was the god, on a slightly above avg. wage, so he must have been right. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 06:47 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

*UPDATE*
Just passed yesterday and did a lot better, thanks for all your comments!
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done OP. Now try not to crash n get deaded!



RhynoCZ wrote:
. Well, I was a kid and the examiner was the god, on a slightly above avg. wage, so he must have been right. Rolling Eyes


Had a very similar experience with my car test. Went to pull out from a junction and the examiner stuck the brakes on. I was like uhh? But she was like arrggh and I was like WTF and then she was like could have been something coming geez and I was like no fucking way cos I'd bare checked innit sis n she was like well I didn't cuz and I was like literally pissed that she failed me like a bare fool.
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

just been told of a nasty trick one examiner likes to play on testees at my test centre

3 point turn but does it on a low curb so when you reverse you A) cant see it very well and B) cant feel if your wheel touches it
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Well done OP. Now try not to crash n get deaded!



RhynoCZ wrote:
. Well, I was a kid and the examiner was the god, on a slightly above avg. wage, so he must have been right. Rolling Eyes


Had a very similar experience with my car test. Went to pull out from a junction and the examiner stuck the brakes on. I was like uhh? But she was like arrggh and I was like WTF and then she was like could have been something coming geez and I was like no fucking way cos I'd bare checked innit sis n she was like well I didn't cuz and I was like literally pissed that she failed me like a bare fool.


LOL
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