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Fin
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Will PSU die if shoved in my PC? Reply with quote

I have had 3 PSU's die in this case, all have been Chinese but increasing in power, the 2nd one was probably caused by me overvolting and clocking my GPU. The one which is in there at the moment made funny noises for a few days, smelt a bit funny then went.

I'm now going to invest in a decent power supply but want to know if it will die because of my poor air flow, I want to get a bigger case so I can fit 2 770's in it, have PSU at bottom and get a better airflow (more fans on front). It is hard to find full towers as most of them are mid. Also don't want to spend 100 pound on a case when it's just a few metal sheets really and I could buy an almax or cylinder / rad for my NSR or the 2nd 770.

https://i.imgur.com/VtfXMtr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K2YsRHx.jpg

Would a PSU die in there? Shall I buy a 2nd hand PSU or a new one with a warranty?

I understand they blow the hot air away, being at the top and not much of an exhaust I assume the heat traps and things melt.

edit: I think the 2nd was 750 watts and lasted about 6 months, the 3rd was 850 and lasted the same, have been looking at the rm1000i on amazon or want to win an auction on something on ebay. I probably don't need that power cause no titan but maybe someday.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see why it would.

Just remember, PC cooling is ALWAYS about airFLOW and not just about the fans you have.

It looks like you have a AIO water cooler for your cpu. They recommend you fit the fan pulling air IN to get the coolest air over the rad. That's all very well, but your fan at the front of your case will most likely be pulling air in as well.

This is possibly causing your overheating problem if that's indeed the cause as there's no where for the air to go.

I have a similar setup but I have a decent bit-fenix case so my psu is at the bottom of the case with plenty of room and I have a 3rd fan on the top blowing air back out (my water cooler and front fan pull air in as yours probably does) - the heat my top fan pulls out is incredible. When the cpu is at all whack the rad can get quite hot but my cpu rarely even breaks 35 degrees Smile

I can't see the top of your case but are you able to do similar? Or failing that perhaps cut and mount one on your side panel maybe?

I'm just throwing ideas, guessing on what you've said. I can't tell you anything for sure.. best thing to do is download a program called 'speccy'. Bootup and run that. It'll tell you the temps of all your devices (hdds, gpu, etc..) and play with different fan setups to find what works out the best.

Good luck Smile
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 04 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My temps are fine, water cooling fans are blowing air out of case, fan at front sucking in. just can't monitor the PSU temp, will cut hole in top and put a PSU blowing out the top.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remove the corsair cooler and burn it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheap Chinese no name PSUs are made of cocoa tins and their alleged power ratings are at best dubious. It's unlikely that a reduced air flow killed them, more likely that you got stung by bad dice rolls from buying cheap crap.
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PostPosted: 03:26 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:
Cheap Chinese no name PSUs are made of cocoa tins and their alleged power ratings are at best dubious. It's unlikely that a reduced air flow killed them, more likely that you got stung by bad dice rolls from buying cheap crap.


And I have 3 cheap crap PSU's that are still going strong (oldest of which is almost 5 years old)
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

andym wrote:


And I have 3 cheap crap PSU's that are still going strong (oldest of which is almost 5 years old)


Rogerborg has a working chinese bike. Doesn't mean they're all decent.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be fine, but i would get a bigger case with better airflow options. You can get a decent case for £35 if you look around, so there is no need to spend loads.

Also that water cooler is supposed to suck air from outside of the case. At the moment your just cooling it with hot air, which isnt going to do much at all. Problem is though that if you swap it arround then your case will be hot as fuck without blowing fans in. Enclosed single stack coolers are pretty shit anyway, especially considering the price they are.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:

Rogerborg has a working chinese bike. Doesn't mean they're all decent.


And I currently have 3 chinese bikes that all work well, as did all my previous chinese bikes
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayrton wrote:
Also that water cooler is supposed to suck air from outside of the case. At the moment your just cooling it with hot air, which isnt going to do much at all. Problem is though that if you swap it arround then your case will be hot as fuck without blowing fans in. Enclosed single stack coolers are pretty shit anyway, especially considering the price they are.


What a load of bollocks.

I have mine mounted inside my case on the rear, and intake fans on the front of the case.

My temps are very low (for a 1st gen i7) and my system is very stable.

Unless the ambient room temp is like 5C, then it's not going to make much difference.

HAve a gander at this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjYli6itP38
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Ayrton wrote:
Also that water cooler is supposed to suck air from outside of the case. At the moment your just cooling it with hot air, which isnt going to do much at all. Problem is though that if you swap it arround then your case will be hot as fuck without blowing fans in. Enclosed single stack coolers are pretty shit anyway, especially considering the price they are.


What a load of bollocks.

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Unless the ambient room temp is like 5C, then it's not going to make much difference.

Given decent ventilation chassis temp shouldn't be more than 5 or 6C higher than ambient. This means you might gain 1C if you're really lucky.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 05 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't looked inside my PC for quite a while.... so you'll have to excuse all the dust, but this is inside mine:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/andy36586/PC_zpse3amyosi.jpg
I believe the PSU came with the case (brand new) for about £45, although looking on ebay they are now around £88 Confused but then I've had that for about 3 years now.

My spare PC was only missing the PSU after I thought it was faulty.... turns out it was the reset button.... but I ended up just buying a 500w PSU for £20 and it still hasn't blown up
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

After cutting a hole in the top I realize the mounting screw holes only allow the psu to be put in one way.
https://i.imgur.com/tQ8NI83.jpg
Fuck You Cansa troll! tbh I laughed my ass off

Not wanting to admit defeat and have it looking like this and seeing that it came with a load of zip ties Razz
https://i.imgur.com/BPD7aWm.jpg

Very Happy

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PostPosted: 16:57 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's all well and good but you've still got the corsair cooler. Sick
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 07 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Ayrton wrote:
Also that water cooler is supposed to suck air from outside of the case. At the moment your just cooling it with hot air, which isnt going to do much at all. Problem is though that if you swap it arround then your case will be hot as fuck without blowing fans in. Enclosed single stack coolers are pretty shit anyway, especially considering the price they are.


What a load of bollocks.

I have mine mounted inside my case on the rear, and intake fans on the front of the case.

My temps are very low (for a 1st gen i7) and my system is very stable.

Unless the ambient room temp is like 5C, then it's not going to make much difference.

HAve a gander at this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjYli6itP38


Just going by what happened when i tested it out that way to see if i could avoid sucking hot air into my case. I was getting arround 75-80c at full load with the fan blowing out and only 65c with it blowing in. Think my intake fan fucked up a few days later, so that may have reduced airflow a bit though.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 08 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
That's all well and good but you've still got the corsair cooler. Sick


BURN THE HEATHEN I SAY!

Honestly though have Corsair products gone so far down hill now? Neutral
Admittedly its been a few years but time was Corsair were up there were the good ones.
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