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R1stu
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Rounded out stanchion bolt. Reply with quote

So the mot is due today on the pan. I had the fork seals replaced a couple of weeks ago, but one blew on the way home from the garage.

I have now brought a genuine Honda seal and went to fit it yesterday. It looks however that they rounded the head on thevallen bolt that holds the stanchion into the lowers, as it had a splined pattern on it from where they jammed an oversized bit in there.

Low and behold, everything I tried resulted in the bits just turning out. So as this is resessed, what is going to be the best way to get it out, so I can replace the seal?
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who replaced the seals initially.

Return to mender.
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Who replaced the seals initially.

Return to mender.


Don't think there fault. I supplied the parts and they were cheap aftermarket seals. I thought about taking it back, but would prob have to pay again.
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get drilling.
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try banging an oversize torx bit in, shouldn't be that tight if its in the yoke.

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PostPosted: 07:47 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

typically you can hammer a Torq bit in to remove,
If this has been done you could pop a nut over the top of the bolt and tack weld inside the nut to the bolt and remove with a spanner/socket.

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PostPosted: 08:03 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the garage has rounded the head I'd take it back and tell them to sort it. A garage cross threaded my tank bracket before and tried to hide it. They should just be honest and say "sorry mate we've fucked up ______. We'll put it right for you", instead of trying to cover things up.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on hammering a torx bit in, it has never failed for me.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the torx bit doesn't work, drill the head off.

I've rounded out plenty before myself (before I bought an impact wrench). They drill out very easily and the stump that's left unscrews with fingers. Especially if it's been out recently.

Remember to order a new one.

If the seal blew that quickly, it was either torn as it went in, you have pitting on the stanchion or you have exessive play on the bushings. So check those bushings.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spline bits are often more effective than torx bits as they come in a wider range of sizes. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If the torx bit doesn't work, drill the head off.

I've rounded out plenty before myself (before I bought an impact wrench). They drill out very easily and the stump that's left unscrews with fingers. Especially if it's been out recently.

Remember to order a new one.

If the seal blew that quickly, it was either torn as it went in, you have pitting on the stanchion or you have exessive play on the bushings. So check those bushings.


There is some pitting, however he advised it was above the seal line. I am going to order some new bushings too.

ITs passed the MOT now, so I will do towards the end of the month when I have another few days off.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

R1stu wrote:

There is some pitting, however he advised it was above the seal line. I am going to order some new bushings too.


Aye, but how did they get the seals in place?

If they rounded the bolt head then put it back in anyway, I bet they also shoved the new seal down over the pitted area.

Cover the pitted area in clingfilm and cover the "lip" at the top with PVC tape before you fit the new ones.

Do check those bushings though. My mates ZX9R is constantly blowing fork seals (USD forks too so messy) and he won't have it that worn bushings are the problem. He's done the seals 3 times in the last 12 months.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 09 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the seal is just leaking, I suggest a couple of things that have always worked for me. I have replaced several sets of fork seals. I used genuine parts. They *never* seal perfectly first time so I always do the following.

Seal mate tool. Its a cheap thin piece of plastic that you slide under the seal, but there are free alternatives. It resets the seal lips

Apply a small amount of grease around the seal, under the dust seal and stanchion. It doesnt need much.

Pull brake and pump the forks. It will be sealed perfectly in 10-20 bounces.

My stanchions are perfect and my cbr6 is still on original seals at 70k miles.


This will avoid needing to drill the bolt.
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