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| Polarbear |
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 Posted: 12:57 - 07 Jul 2016 Post subject: Best way to remove many years of paint from my boat roof? |
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As per the title.
For some reason the paint on the roof of my narrowboat is starting to break up badly. The top coat is flaking (bad preparation by a previous owner I suspect but it is also coming off in large deep chunks in places.
https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f261/WhiteFurryBear/Roof%201.jpg
https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f261/WhiteFurryBear/Roof%202.jpg
What's the best mechanical way to strip this back to bare metal for painting between the the side rails. I can't use nitromoors incase it gets in the canal. I only have a small generator (about 1000W).
I'm willing to buy the right machine (mains or batter)y if it will do the job relatively easily but at the moment all I can think of is a battery angle grinder and wire brush.
Many thanks in advance  ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Boat yard here has got a machine for stripping paint from the roof which takes about half a day.
Other than that you'll be doing it manually.  |
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Some of these;
https://cdn.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/21989.jpg
On a 115mm angry grinder (~750w, blue Bosch ones are around 35 ponds and I've always had good luck with them) will run off your genny. It will be a slow job but short of getting a sand blasting setup I think you'll be fairly limited. |
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Hire a Hydroblaster and wash it off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmk4fxl7eL4 ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Thanks for the ideas. Pressure washer first to see what comes off and take it from there.
I already have a 4.5" angle grinder and wire brush. Will check the wattage and see if it will kill my generator or not.  ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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If you're looking for a chemical way to do it without using crappy organic paint stripper then you can buy proper Dichloromethane solvent from here:
https://darrantchemicals.co.uk/dichloromethane
It'll lift pretty much any paint off, but be warned it'll also melt some types of plastics. It's not the nicest stuff in the world but it definitely works! ____________________ Former: Derbi GP1 50, Sachs XTC 125, Suzuki GSXR 400 GK73A, Kawasaki ZX7R, Suzuki DR250, Yamaha RD350
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40,000psi? Yeah, right, the machine might be capable of it but those guys aren't using it. I had to work very hard to hang on to 16,000psi dump gun and that was when I was in my 20's. I've seen 40k in use, the gun was mounted to an excavator and gave off 5m of backwash.
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400000psi = 28kg/mm2 and a 1mm nozzle has 4.94mm2 area (a concrete cutting nozzle is typically 2mm so I'll be generous and halve it for their total nozzle area) so if they were using 40k psi each of those guys would be holding the gun against 138kg of force or one and a half times their own body weight. They certainly aren't doing that. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good  |
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| andyscooter wrote: | | Nope. wrote: | If you're looking for a chemical way to do it without using crappy organic paint stripper then you can buy proper Dichloromethane solvent from here:
https://darrantchemicals.co.uk/dichloromethane
It'll lift pretty much any paint off, but be warned it'll also melt some types of plastics. It's not the nicest stuff in the world but it definitely works! |
wouldn't that be even more dangerous to wildlife in the canal the boat is on |
Well, it's not really going to run off unless you spill it since it's a solvent and it'll just evaporate. You'll have to be careful not to scrape the paint into the canal but you'd be doing that anyway. So, don't spill it or pour it away and I should think it'd be ok. ____________________ Former: Derbi GP1 50, Sachs XTC 125, Suzuki GSXR 400 GK73A, Kawasaki ZX7R, Suzuki DR250, Yamaha RD350
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40,000psi? Yeah, right, the machine might be capable of it but those guys aren't using it. I had to work very hard to hang on to 16,000psi dump gun and that was when I was in my 20's. I've seen 40k in use, the gun was mounted to an excavator and gave off 5m of backwash.
Uninteresting details:
400000psi = 28kg/mm2 and a 1mm nozzle has 4.94mm2 area (a concrete cutting nozzle is typically 2mm so I'll be generous and halve it for their total nozzle area) so if they were using 40k psi each of those guys would be holding the gun against 138kg of force or one and a half times their own body weight. They certainly aren't doing that. |
40,000+PSI . And one man operates the lance/gun.
It is a very common system for descaling and preparing large surfaces as it is chemical free.
The nozzle rotates to prevent a solid jet penetrating the surface of what is cleaned but if too close the spray will engrave steel plate very effectively.
If you do the math for pressure over area it will not be too much force to contain. It may be 40K PSI but the volume of water is the part of more concern in this case.
And it will wash paint off anything. (Possibly with some of the underlying material is used too aggressively.) ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 182 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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