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I read up alot on this, and im not entirely sure he is the monster he is being made out to be, of course most mindless drones jump on the bandwagon.
19 year old slag, gets drunk and goes to bed with two YOUNG men, denies knowledge of consent but looks more than happy on CCTV being led to bed, obviously was shamed and needed a scapegoat.
Said drink was spiked which it wasnt, but she did have cocaine and weed in her system, which is denied taking.
Obviously utter lies from the bitch, nobody in the right mind would spike a drink with cocaine and cannabis.
Morally he should have known better, but in these types of cases there is always something that makes me suspicious.
A famous ish sports star has young women fall over themselves to suck the guys dick, ive seen it with my own eyes, i cant see a probable enough cause for him to rape.
For me, this kind of case devalues what i consider real rape to be. ____________________ Ducati 1299 Panigale
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We have a system, the system is there so that the crime is punished. Once you have served the time you should then be allowed to try and return to as normal life as possible.
Anyone with a criminal record seems to have to be punished over and over as lots of jobs require a disclosure.
The most interesting part is that every time he goes onto a pitch he will be reminded in no uncertain terms of what he has been punished for.
I've been to matches where convicted players have been hurled abuse for 90 mins, so in a way he will be 'punished' every Saturday.  ____________________ Current stable: Yamaha XVS 650 1996 - Honda Super Magna VF750 1988. |
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| Wave2k wrote: | I read up alot on this, and im not entirely sure he is the monster he is being made out to be, of course most mindless drones jump on the bandwagon.
19 year old slag, gets drunk and goes to bed with two YOUNG men, denies knowledge of consent but looks more than happy on CCTV being led to bed, obviously was shamed and needed a scapegoat.
Said drink was spiked which it wasnt, but she did have cocaine and weed in her system, which is denied taking.
Obviously utter lies from the bitch, nobody in the right mind would spike a drink with cocaine and cannabis.
Morally he should have known better, but in these types of cases there is always something that makes me suspicious.
A famous ish sports star has young women fall over themselves to suck the guys dick, ive seen it with my own eyes, i cant see a probable enough cause for him to rape.
For me, this kind of case devalues what i consider real rape to be. |
The thing is, he was found guilty after a trial, and that evidence you mention would have been presented to the judge and jury.. He can say he didn't do it all he likes, but unless that conviction is quashed, he did..
I'm not sure I agree with 'probable cause' either, just cos he can get it elsewhere doesn't mean she consented to him getting it there.
I'm divided really on whether he should go back to work. I wouldn't have a job to go to with a criminal record let alone being on the register. I would suggest that most people here would be sacked if they were found guilty of rape, if only because their employers didn't want to be seen as people who employ rapists.
On the other hand, he's been punished, and we are meant to provide a rehabilitative approach to 'justice' in this country. ____________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S Thompson
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| RedPanda wrote: | Scumbag sex offender who knew he was in the wrong as he went out a fire escape, |
So any famous person that leaves a public establishment by a less-public exis knows they are in the wrong?
| Quote: | The thing is, he was found guilty after a trial, and that evidence you mention would have been presented to the judge and jury.. He can say he didn't do it all he likes, but unless that conviction is quashed, he did.. |
As far as the media and many others are concerned.
Having been prosecuted for something I wasn't guilty of but couldn't (afford to) provide a defense that I wasn't I'm well aware that the courts aren't the be all and end all of 'fact'.
Far from it, often.
In my case, I later found out that police DID have some evidence which pointed to my innocence, but this was the one item that did NOT appear in court.
(My case was a mere 3 points and fine, so overall very menial in the grand scheme of things.)
There are plenty of cases of people being found guilty in even more serious cases and later being acquitted on appeal.
If the 'victim' had been a man, with the same evidence given, I wonder what the outcome would have been.
(Well, I don't - I suspect the police would have laughed at him, said "nice one, stop boasting" and sent him on his way.) |
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| G wrote: | | RedPanda wrote: | Scumbag sex offender who knew he was in the wrong as he went out a fire escape, |
So any famous person that leaves a public establishment by a less-public exis knows they are in the wrong?
| Quote: | The thing is, he was found guilty after a trial, and that evidence you mention would have been presented to the judge and jury.. He can say he didn't do it all he likes, but unless that conviction is quashed, he did.. |
As far as the media and many others are concerned.
Having been prosecuted for something I wasn't guilty of but couldn't (afford to) provide a defense that I wasn't I'm well aware that the courts aren't the be all and end all of 'fact'.
Far from it, often.
In my case, I later found out that police DID have some evidence which pointed to my innocence, but this was the one item that did NOT appear in court.
(My case was a mere 3 points and fine, so overall very menial in the grand scheme of things.)
There are plenty of cases of people being found guilty in even more serious cases and later being acquitted on appeal.
If the 'victim' had been a man, with the same evidence given, I wonder what the outcome would have been.
(Well, I don't - I suspect the police would have laughed at him, said "nice one, stop boasting" and sent him on his way.) |
Jury trial ?
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I said 'unless his conviction is quashed' I understand he appealing, so we'll see then eh ? ____________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S Thompson
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Thus, perhaps, why I stated; 'overall very menial in the grand scheme of things' . |
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Don't see what him being a footballer has to do with it, and who had heard of him before this? If he was a teacher or something and couldn't by law return to his profession then fine, but if we're talking about ostracising people who have served their time then that's quite disturbing. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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Oldham Athletic do have previous for employing convicts in positions where they can be called a "role-model". Anyone remember the twunt Lee Hughes, caused death by dangerous driving when he crashed in to someone, and then fled the scene reportedly to avoid a breath test before turning himself in to police 36 hours later?
Whether Evans did or didn't, he put himself in the position where he could be accused of rape, and the only person who could control his situation was him. The club know his history and seem to work on the principle of no publicity being bad publicity, but they are going to take some shit for it, and Evans is going to be vilified every week by opposition fans. Someone mentioned above that his employment isn't the issue, it's the fact that he is a public figure, regardless of how large his 'status' is.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 80 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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