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 Posted: 21:36 - 22 Oct 2016 Post subject: Random beer question! |
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For anyone that knows about beer... which of these two beers would be the closest to normal draught Guinness?
This porter or this milk stout?
Asking for a friend. Cheers  |
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I know, I know But we want to buy a Guinness-drinking mate a cask because it's brewed locally and he'd appreciate it. Only problem is, it all tastes like shit to me. |
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Just had a hipster beer shop open near me
Expensive stuff too, £3 for a half pint bottle sort of stuff
They won't last long.
I reckon I'll pop in soon and ask if they have any 3ltr bottles
of White Lightning or cans of Ace lager.  ____________________ bikers smell of wee |
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I would say the porter is more of a very dark bitter
guiness is a stout
but sod that get him some sadlers mud city stout instead
only downside is it gives you a bad head ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
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Stout is stout, bitter and punchy, dark beer is sweet and very mild.
If it's all about having the same colour of a liquid in front of you, telling others how cool you are, both drinking the manly stout, then dark beer / or any soft drink of the same colour is the way to go.
If you/he/she want/s Guinness, then there are no substitutes. You don't order a fish, buried under tons of spices and condiments, so it doesn't smell nor taste like a fish, telling others you like to eat fish.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Apparently a milk stout is made with lactose, which makes it taste sweeter.
I find Guinness fairly bitter, but I really find it hard to appreciate the differences between the three of them. They all taste bloody awful  |
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| Timmy wrote: | Apparently a milk stout is made with lactose, which makes it taste sweeter.
I find Guinness fairly bitter, but I really find it hard to appreciate the differences between the three of them. They all taste bloody awful  |
All I can say is that according to the Guiness factory tour I was dragged on many many many years ago, Guiness 'is' Porter-Beer. Old man Guinness got the recipe in London, where the Hotel Porters drank it, and set up the brewery to make it in Dublin, and 'yes' the free pint in the factory does taste different to wot you get in the pub on this side of the Irish channel.
If the chap is of the emerald persuasion, just 'don't'... if it's not guiness you wont here the last of it; if its not as good as guiness you wont here the last of it, if it's better than guiness you wont here the last of it... NEVER interfere with an oyrish man and his beer... just let'em get on with it!  ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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I have an oyrish stepmother; typical north american one, a confirmed Fenian and real-ale socialist, with a platinum credit card. Never set foot in the country until she was forty!
Used to get dragged by her niece into Boston style Oyrish Theme Pubs, every time I went over... usually with the excuse, "Well, its this or a damn cowboy bar!"..
Never ceased to amaze me, they had a Fenian collection pot on the bar for the change after buying their Guinness.... and were utterly oblivious to the fact that the Guinness family probably 'killed' more oyrish caflicks, than Oliver's Army! Buying up all the grain in Ireland to make liffywater, fueling the potato famine, taking so much land away from native cottaging and cattle grazing; forcing the peasants onto ever smaller allotments to grow spuds to feed'emselves; whilst the Guinness family were one of the staunchest supporters of the protestant cause and unionism, as their business depended on British 'export' trade!!!!
You know, the expression there's none so mad as the Irish? well, its an editorial mistake. They omitted the 'American' from before the 'Irish'! {probably been more accurate if they had just omited the 'Irish' actually!} ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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| Timmy wrote: | For anyone that knows about beer... which of these two beers would be the closest to normal draught Guinness?
This porter or this milk stout?
Asking for a friend. Cheers  |
Neither are particularly close, but the first is likely to be a more similar.
As a guess:
The second one (milk stout) will be the most different. It'll be similar to the porter, but stronger flavoured. They have also added lactose and according to the wesbite, cacao nibs, coffee and vanilla. The lactose (a sugar in milk, hence milk stout) doesn't ferment so the beer will be quite sweet, with the coffee/chocolate flavours on top it'll be very different.
A decent porter (the first one) is quite "heavy", it'll have unfermentable sugars which give it the almost syrupy texture a good stout has, and it'll have a quite bitter roasted barely maltiness. It'll probably have a fair whack of early hops to balance out the maltiness.
Guinness on the other hand is an Irish stout which means it is dry (i.e. not a lot of unfermented residual sugars) and very "thin" for a stout. Because the flavour is relatively mild they don't need a lot of hops to balance it out, so there is no stong malt or bitter flavour which the other stout/porter will have if brewed to style.
In both of the craft beers I'd expect a small yeast sediment, because they say unfined/unfiltered. This is a good thing for the beer, but you will want to let the bottles settle upright for a few days and decant slowly into a glass to drink if you don't want to drink the yeast. The yeast is good for you, but some people don't like the taste/it gives them the shits. Most commercial breweries with bottle conditioned beer don't leave a lot of yeast in the bottle, so it isn't really an issue. |
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