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 Posted: 19:21 - 27 Oct 2016 Post subject: Trailer laws |
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Finally got a car with a tow bar which will allow me the option to have a trailer if I need one, but I'm struggling to find all of the laws on towing with a trailer.
The GOV website is very vague.
https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/driving-licence-rules-and-what-you-can-tow
Do you need to insure a trailer?
If so, is it part of car insurance or home insurance or specific trailer insurance?
Do you need an MOT for them?
If so, how often do they get an MOT?
Do they need arches for covering the wheels?
And a lightboard (if you can see the rear lights of the car)?
Do you need an 'on tow' sticker?
Do you need to light for the number plate?
Any help muchly appreciated. Probably will look for something that is small but big enough to carry a decent supply of firewood (pallet sizes), or possibly an A frame dolly for towing other cars.
Will the laws be different for towing other cars on an A frame? |
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On the subject of a frames or towing dollies - be careful. It's a massively grey area when it comes to whether the towed car needs to be insured/MOTd/taxed or not.
I never dug far enough into it to get definitive answers, but tread carefully  ____________________ Past - 1988 honda revere 600, 1996 kawasaki gpz500s, 1999 Yamaha R6
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| groovylee wrote: | | B5234FT wrote: |
A frames are total different as they are legal only for recovery to the nearest safe place and cannot be used for long distance towing at all. |
oh they can...... but they have to have brakes fitted and other caveats - i.e overrun brake setup, you can buy these specifically for the purpose
otherwise, every single motorhome towing a smart car is breaking the law, and they're not. |
As fair as I know, and dont take this as gospel:
The use of Wheeled A frames for recovery is acceptable, but not otherwise, as the vehicle leaves an unbraked axle on the road. Doesnt matter if the A frame itself is braked in this instance. This sort of thing:
https://www.ripleyrecovery.com/Gallery_files/Dis-Dolly.jpg
The AA et al. have a dispensation for theirs as they arent counted as a 'trailer' due to being permanently coupled to the vehicle, which is why they are folded and stored inside the back of the van
https://www.bits4vits.co.uk/130316/DSCN2219.jpg
A frames as used by motorhomes use all four wheels of the car being towed and come with a system to activate the vehicles brakes, thus ensuring all axles on the road are braked (as all cars towed are generally over 750kg), but they require extensive mods to the vehicle
https://www.smart-tow.com/
https://www.smart-tow.com/img/2011/P10960s.jpg
As usual however, people dont do their research, see a campervan towing a car and go "must be fine then" and crack on without the proper braking etc, or use dollies to tow their trackday car around the country and this then gets propogated on forums with the "done it for years, it'll be fine mate" attitude to road laws. |
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[quote="Copycat73"
that would depend on the ULW of the towing vehicle .... a transit could pull 1000kg MAM trailer... un braked.[/quote]
Citation please?
https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/towing-equipment
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Any trailer weighing over 750kg, including its load, must have a working brake system.
Some smaller trailers also have brakes, although these are optional.
Any brakes on a trailer or caravan must be in good working order. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 115 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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