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loughy
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Duke 2 issue Reply with quote

Hopefull you'll be able to provide advice.....

Filled the Duke 2 with Supreme unleaded (for the first time, usually put standard unleaded in), left the garage and rode for approx 2 miles before pulling up at a red and all of a sudden the radiator started pissing white smoke. I hadnt battered it for those 2 miles either, all 30's.

Got the bike home, on the stand, turned the key (didnt start it) and the fan kicked in very loudly (first time thats happened) so I put it down to overheating somehow.

Left the bike for approx 15-20mins, checked the radiator, which was full (it was filled with the proper coolant/de-icer mix KTM recommend), checked the oil and that was fine (maybe a little low - but certainly not below the marker).

Thought I'd leave it til the weekend and have a proper look... until today happened....

Coming into work, got 1.5 mile into the 3 mile journey, riding along in 3rd doing 30pm, dropped down to 20 and into second, the second i let start letting the clutch out the revs slutdropped to less than 1k. Pulled over to the side of the road and attempted to pull away again after a few mins and it was dying instantly. Had a look online and the 2 main suspects seemed to be -

Snapped clutch cable - checked both ends and it wasn't snapped
Side stand sensor - Ive had a CBF with had a side stand issue and when you tried to pull away the bike died instantly, the KTM didnt die in the same way, it dropped revs.

Left it for 15mins, tried again and away I go, not a single issue.

Just went to check on the bike after an hour of sitting at work and theres a few small drops of oil on the ground Embarassed .

I've had a quick chat with a car mechanic at work and he recommends and oil change, filter and spark fplug change (last service was 4k miles ago).

It seems to me like a temperature issue (i could be wrong) but the bike seems to be overheating. It does have an overheating light which hasnt came on at all yet.

TL:DR bike seems to be overheating, will a service fix it?
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must add - this has only started happening since i put supreme unleaded in, have filled up numerous times with standard stuff - probly a coincidence.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope it wasn`t supreme diesel.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa90 wrote:
Hope it wasn`t supreme diesel.


My thoughts as well Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

was 100% petrol Very Happy

Youve got me slightly doubting myself now though, surely my symptoms would be different if id put the wrong fuel in?
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

loughy wrote:
was 100% petrol Very Happy

Youve got me slightly doubting myself now though, surely my symptoms would be different if id put the wrong fuel in?


Just go and sniff what's in your tank, diesel is obvious by smell and feel.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Re: Duke 2 issue Reply with quote

loughy wrote:

Snapped clutch cable - checked both ends and it wasn't snapped



What on earth makes you think a clutch cable would affect engine performance?

Tbh, it shoulds like it's heat seizing, but as it's a 4T seems unlikely.

How come it's full of coolent after it crapped itself?
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loughy
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Re: Duke 2 issue Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
loughy wrote:

Snapped clutch cable - checked both ends and it wasn't snapped



What on earth makes you think a clutch cable would affect engine performance?

Tbh, it shoulds like it's heat seizing, but as it's a 4T seems unlikely.

How come it's full of coolent after it crapped itself?


I never mentioned performance mate? I said when i let the clutch out the revs dropped? The overheating is a ddifferent issue I think but could be related, I have no idea.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any milky condensation in the oil sight glass?
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Re: Duke 2 issue Reply with quote

loughy wrote:
slutdropped

Neutral

White smoke out of the radiator? Do you mean steam? If so, I'd imagine it was overheating either because the coolant temperature sensor is on the blink, or there are gremlins in the electrics = no light, and no fan.

I wonder if it's running lean.

Has a hedgehog climbed into your air filter and blocked it?

Or potentially you've swirled some crud up from the bottom of the tank, and/or the detergents have successfully dislodged some gunk from inside your fuel filter / pump / lines and it's partially clogging your carb. I'd be looking to give it a good clean out, after draining that 98/102 RON witch-milk and going back to proper 95 prolejuice.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Re: Duke 2 issue Reply with quote

loughy wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:

What on earth makes you think a clutch cable would affect engine performance?


I never mentioned performance mate? I said when i let the clutch out the revs dropped?


Are you fucking stupid?

There's a difference between dropping the clutch, revs dropping as a result and pulling away normally and dropping the clutch, engine revs dropping and you being sat at the side of the road with an embarrassed look on your face.

This whole section of your post implies that the engine didn't have the power you were expecting = loss of performance.

Twat.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Re: Duke 2 issue Reply with quote

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Are you fucking stupid?

There's a difference between dropping the clutch, revs dropping as a result and pulling away normally and dropping the clutch, engine revs dropping and you being sat at the side of the road with an embarrassed look on your face.

This whole section of your post implies that the engine didn't have the power you were expecting = loss of performance.


Twat.


Is there really any need to be so much of a fucking cock end? You can clearly tell by my post that i'm not clued on on the workings/mechanics of bikes hence coming to post here.

Reading the posts around here plenty of people seem helpful enough, not sure why youve gone on like a total bellend for me being a bit thick in this area.

For the non-bellends - the temp issues sorted, seems to have been a dodgy sensor, the cutting out issue still rears its ugly head but I've nailed it down to an electrical fault, as if i "wiggle" a specific cable (dont bite my head off like bellend A for not knowing what it was) it sorts the issue.

Will be taking it to bits an investigating tonight Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've confirmed Stinkwheel's Law, that 90% of fuelling problems are electrical. Wink
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loughy
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
You've confirmed Stinkwheel's Law, that 90% of fuelling problems are electrical. Wink


I detect sarcasm Wink

Done a lot of researching and due to the stinking amount of vibrations given off, the side stand sensor, clutch interlock switch and the killswitch all become lose/fucked after time. Should all be easy enough to look into, even for a noob.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, totes srs. A lot of things that feel like they should be fuelling problems turn out to be electrical - I've been fooled on that a couple of times.

A good dose with WD-40 might not go amiss - displacing water and helping electrical contacts is the one thing that it actually does fairly well.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Nope, totes srs. A lot of things that feel like they should be fuelling problems turn out to be electrical - I've been fooled on that a couple of times.

A good dose with WD-40 might not go amiss - displacing water and helping electrical contacts is the one thing that it actually does fairly well.


"First check for an LC4 is to test the side stand interlock switch, the clutch interlock switch and the kill switch"

Thats where I think ill begin.
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