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kgm
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 25 Jan 2017    Post subject: Cheap Chain Oilers Reply with quote

Afternoon all,

Has anyone tried any of the cheaper chain oilers on the market? Looking for one for my CG but don't want to spend a lot on it. I have a Tutoro on the ER6 which works well but I don't want to spend the same for the CG, it's not really needed. I'm quite happy with a manual feed one for it.

Suggestions? So far aware of Loobman, Tutoro (Scotoiler, PDoiler and other similarly priced auto systems are out).
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 25 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried the Loobman and it's OK but fitting is critical. If you fit it wrong it won't work properly. I think Tuotoro is easier and I have two of the things but I've not gotten around to fitting one yet.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 25 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

make your own, like i did Thumbs Up works damn well too

you will need:

1x scottoiler hose
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scottoiler-Conveyor-hose-incl-Nozzle-SA-0028-/391643368782?hash=item5b2fc38d4e:g:tcEAAOSwiONYQVIj

1x lawn mower primer bulb
1x spare brake fluid reservoir
100000x cable ties

there were some little things like adapters to link hoses together and a bit of superglue to add to the hose to make 100% sure it wont come off the primer bulb if the hose is caught accidentally.

6k miles or so and mine is still going strong Thumbs Up Cost me roughly £30 to make with enough bits to repair it if it went wrong.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 25 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Loobman on one bike and a DIY affair on the other. Both were about £20. Neither is perfect.


Loobman is a good shout. It's cheap and works, just not without limitations.
It's manual, you have to hold the button down.
The reservoir is quite small (circa 500 miles worth). The flow of oil is gravity fed, so the run rate is affected by the type of oil you use and the ambient temperature. But its £20 and an electronic pump Scotoiler is £200, so...


I recommend buying a £1.50 aquarium flow control valve so you can fine tune the flow delivery.

I also put a hole in the rubber button and attached a long cable tie in a loop, so I can force the button to be held down by hooking the cable tie loop under the base of the reservoir for 2 mins while riding and avoid riding one handed, and avoid standing waiting with the button pressed.

Only downside is, have occasionally forgotten to release the button again and essentially hosed the rear tyre and anyone behind me. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 25 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the working parts of an old scotoiler on the shelf. Send me your address and you can have it.
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 26 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351634653462

If you want an automatic, positive displacement oiler, motorcyce oil pumps are cheap. Attach a low speed dc motor and arduino to run it at a low duty cycle.
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 26 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of the cheap pilers the loobman is the best.

I usually dont bother wih the feed head and leave the hose to drip onto the rollers which seems to work just fine.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 26 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Tutoro did this to my brand new tyre, cos reasons.

https://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/arryR32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0862_zpsdohpn5zb.jpg

Pee'd me off somewhat. I just don't get how it was working fine one minute, and spewed its guts the next.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 26 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
I've got the working parts of an old scotoiler on the shelf. Send me your address and you can have it.


Thanks man; PM sent.


arry wrote:
Pee'd me off somewhat. I just don't get how it was working fine one minute, and spewed its guts the next.


Two things I can think of from experience. This happened to me very early on. I stood up on a long ride for a stretch and accidentally knocked the reservoir off vertical, it was at an angle of about 45 degrees, maybe a touch more. The flow rate increased dramatically - I assume the valve stuck open. The other possibility is the tubing leading from the reservoir. Is there slack in it to allow it to move when the swingarm moves? If there isn't it could pull loose or loose enough to let air in which might dump all the oil in the tubing. If none of these contact Tutoro. Their customer service is pretty good IME.

I always get a little creeping of oil on the tyre on long rides so I normally turn it down further than normal to prevent this, even off if I notice it happening. Rarely gets any further than about half an inch though so it hasn't been a problem and its always light.
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 26 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a Loobman on a Bandit 600 (get the jokes out of the way, a bike I hated from the start, it was bought for me, I did not get a say, I wanted to keep my NTV). Worked brilliantly!
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 26 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
My Tutoro did this to my brand new tyre, cos reasons.


On the plus sides, chain looks well lubed and your rear tyre should last longer too .


What you want with a grunty v-twin in the UK is a well lubed LH side of the tyre Smile
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 26 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
My Tutoro did this to my brand new tyre, cos reasons.

https://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/arryR32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0862_zpsdohpn5zb.jpg

Pee'd me off somewhat. I just don't get how it was working fine one minute, and spewed its guts the next.


My tire looks like that every day the first mile or two. Its gone after a few corners. Tiny bit of oil does not affect grip.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 26 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
My Tutoro did this to my brand new tyre, cos reasons.

https://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/arryR32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0862_zpsdohpn5zb.jpg

Pee'd me off somewhat. I just don't get how it was working fine one minute, and spewed its guts the next.


Did you put that crash bobbin on with superglue, arry? Shocked
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PostPosted: 06:21 - 27 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't put them on, they were already fitted. You've got me paranoid now Laughing
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 27 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it's the angle of the photo. But if that's the one protecting the swing arm then I'm assuming the bolt should be running through the axle. In which case it looks misaligned and/or loose.

Mine have flanges that sit inside the axle nuts either side.
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 27 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have a look when I'm home. I'm sure it's fine - probably just a weird photo.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 27 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect it's further down and forward on a dedicated bobbin mounting thread.

Loobman are ok if you get the bulk buy so you're not paying too much.

I made a DIY electronic oiler that worked on the bench, but never got around to fitting.
Electric fuel tap along with a basic adjustable timer circuit.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 28 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:

My tire looks like that every day the first mile or two. Its gone after a few corners. Tiny bit of oil does not affect grip.


It emptied the entire reservoir; and definitely affected grip, noticed it straight away.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 28 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I suspect it's further down and forward on a dedicated bobbin mounting thread.


Winner.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/351/32575086235_ccc3aacc8a_b.jpg


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PostPosted: 20:34 - 28 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chainpal Cool
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