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madcyril
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Security Overkill ? Reply with quote

Well the Ninja was delivered yesterday , so i spent last night staring at the beast and fitting various locks/chains . I intend to get the garage alarmed this week and the bike alarmed /immobilised as soon as i get a job . Now the question is do you think i've overdone it ?

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hustler
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a simple answer. yes. You need to plan rides some 40 minutes in advance just to get the thing unlocked! (make sure you have spare keys too Wink )
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naa, I rekon you can be too careful. I mean if it takes 5 mins to get all the locks off so what?? whats 5 mins compared to coming down one morning to find your pride and joy gone?


Oh aye, and dont forget to take the disk lock off every time lol - I tie a piece of coloured fabric to the twist grip whenever I put mine on to remind me !!!!!!!

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PostPosted: 17:47 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can never be too careful!

Make sure you keep to locking it up when you're finished riding though, and don't leave chains dragging on the ground!

Spare keys are a good idea though - kept well away from the bike of course!

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PostPosted: 17:49 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes. They make commuting so much faster.

Unless of course you have to go through a fort knox-esque procedure at both ends of your journey to put your mind at rest. And get in and out of 5 layers of safety nazi hell.
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The Tot
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

One Chain+ Ground anchor + BOSS disk lock in my opinion would be just about enough as i already park the bike in a garage.... Used to only be a disk lock tho... but you can never be too safe, so it's all right to put that many locks if it makes you sleep at night...
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking it would be quicker to use one lock to the wall, pop it up on a paddock stand and take one of the wheels off. You can then take that inside and sleep with it under your pillow for that extra security feeling.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have your bike nicked once, and too much security will never be enough again. B&Q do cctv cameras from 30 quid, not that I'm paranoid or anything.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not too much, but as said, will be quite a hassle getting it unchained in the morning. I currently chain my bike around the swingarm brace and I cover it, it's about as much as I'd want to do before it becomes tiresome.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike's locked up with 3 individual things. Doesn't take that long to do/undo and having had a theft attempt in the past I'm not taking any chances.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my favourite sayings is this,
"Too much is never enough"
Very true when you've had a bike nicked from you. Me, I have 3 locks on the garage door & an alarm/immobiliser on the bike, plus a fuckin big chain & padlock on the front wheel.
I'm still considering letting my mate (He's an explosives expert) fit a small shotgun mine to the door too.
If I could find one I'd have a rabid starving rottweiler chained to the garage wall just in case.


So in answer to your question......NO! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm maybe,being security aware is always good.

But if someone really wants to steal something its pretty impossible to stop them unless you like stick it in a safe or something Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look like reasonable precautions to me!
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuff all those locks , you want to get yourself one of these buggers ! Laughing Bite their ankles if they touch the bike !

Btw She likes ripping off my "L" plate !
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilldic_mossy wrote:
Stuff all those locks , you want to get yourself one of these buggers ! Laughing Bite their ankles if they touch the bike !

Btw She likes ripping off my "L" plate !


Laughing tried one of them, but ours just thinks strangers are just potential friends who will throw the ball for her.... guard dog my ar$e!

On the subject of security, I live in Liverpool and the bike is alarmed (wake all the neighbours up if nothing else), disc locked and chained to a ground anchor. yeah OK it takes me 10 mins every morning to release the thing, but I'd rather that than come to find an empty spec where my t-cat should be.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your fine until you get like this:
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Ste
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 01 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a loud v twin with race cans, if someone is trying to nick your bike you'll be woken up by them trying to start it. There is also the chance if it's in the small hours of the morning the neighbours could also be woken by your bike and call the police for you. Razz
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 02 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a saying less is more
Which is true except when it comes to bike security where more is worth it

Get a baby monitor for putting in the garage as well Very Happy

When it's out of the garage make sure you're just as careful. That is if you intend to take it out of the garage Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 02 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loads of locks is the way to go. We've got 3 bikes all chained together.By the time the locks are removed and i've put my lid on the bike's warmed up and ready to go.Result Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the chain off the floor otherwise they've got something to lever on to. Always amazes me how many people get great kit and then leave a weakness. get the chain nice and tight and off the floor!
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 05 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://bikepics.com/photos/pics/suzuki-gsxr600-04-bikepics-206688.jpg

While this is more than enough security for my neighborhood, a friend of mine takes risk a step further by using no security measures what so ever on his '99 R1.

*note - the blur on the edges aren't my fingers but the vertical slats of my 2nd floor balcony.

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PostPosted: 06:06 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was pondering the effectiveness of my cable lock vs. the conventional chain link variety? I wouldn't assume it's any better, but is it much worse? The bastards around here usually carry bolt cutters, but the trusty hacksaw also sees action on accasion. How might they fare in direct comparison? I've had the pleasure of hacking through a link or two, but never had any reason to go through cable.
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Grubby
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny wrote:
Your fine until you get like this:

Yeah but there ain't one decent chain or lock on that bike. It'd take me approx 5 minutes with a rechargeable angle grinder & a set of bolt cutters to get have away.
That's not to say I'm a tea leaf mate, I'm an engineer. I just know about cutting things up is all.
California rookie, that cable wouldn't cause any problems at all for your average London bike thief mate, I'd say it'd take about 30 seconds to have your bike away.
Ste, loud cans won't save your bike you plum! No bike thief starts or works on a bike where it's been parked up, they always move them, or more often than not load them into a soundproofed van (so the alarm doesn't attract any attention).
At the end of the day if a tea leaf wants your bike then they'll have it. The best you can is to deter them by using decent locks, a good alarm/immobiliser & as fat controller says, try to keep the chain off the floor.
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dainesefreak
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking something similar. Just take the front wheel off. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If some thieving scumbag has taken the time to break into your garage, then he's not going to be put off by a padlock or two.

He'll probably have the tools on him to bust 'em, and all in the privacy of your garage, away from prying eyes!

I've alarmed the garage, put the steering lock on (not so easy to steer) and I park the car right up to the garage door.

If they're still determined to nick it, there's not much I can do, except to ensure that my insurance gives me enough cover to get a replacement (or better) bike ASAP.
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