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 Posted: 17:46 - 03 May 2019 Post subject: XJ600 exhaust "bubble", rough idle |
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Hello
I have some trouble with my XJ600. When bike idle, left exhaust have tendency rev up (from 1200rmp to 2000rpm especially after warm up ) and bubbling exactly like a car in yt link below.
I cheked the temperature of mainfold for each cylinder. First one had less temperature than others, it was warm but not hot.
I checked and swapped coils, intake rubbers and spark plugs but nothing really changed, first mainfoild still colder than others.
All carburetors have same pilot jet number of turns out - 2, like manual says.
I can't figure it out.
If that bubbling means the first cyliner has too much or less fuel?
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squirt, squish, spark, bang
9 out of 10 times you're missing a spark (as Nobby suggested) so check that first.
If you turn it over a bit you can also give the plug a sniff for fuel when you take it out to test the spark. (Take out one of the others to compare if you're still not sure.) A dry plug would hint at a fuel supply problem (either to the carb or the carb itself.)
If spark and fuel is good I'd do a compression test. Easier to get one of the gauges for that on a multi-cylinder engine. Compression down might hint at a valve problem. ____________________ Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Suck, squish, bang, blow... |
I don't do blow any more, too old for that now  ____________________ Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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| Cichy92 wrote: | I took bike for a short ride 30km and I left the motorcycle for a few minutes on idle. |
This is far too lean after a few minutes on idle. This is cylinder 1, the cylinder that didn't get hot, correct?
You stated you swapped coils, intake rubbers and plugs, but this situation remains the same. This rules out electrical problems.
In this situation, I would suspect a carburettor problem - probably carb 1. Insufficient fuelling over carb 1 could be caused by a float problem or a blockage in the pilot circuit, or incorrect fuel-air mixture screw setting, or out of sync butterfly.
it seems it's time to remove the carburettors and overhaul them. Don't separate them out but make sure you blast compressed air into all the tiny passages. Pay particular attention to pilot circuit first, then float levels and float functionality.
The pilot jets on these bikes are very easily blocked, and it can happen often if the bike has any bad fuel, particles in the fuel or is just left sitting (doesn't take long). You should be able to see a nice round hole with an equal amount of light through each pilot jet. If they're blocked, that's the starting point. I have a method to clear these tiny holes.
Once this is done, bench synchronise the carbs, set mixture screws to 2 turns out, put them back on the bike, start it up and this time use a Colourtune to tune the mixture over each cylinder.
I believe this will solve the problems.
OH! And one more thing! Pull your choke in and out a few times and check that it's fully opening and closing each carburettor and not just 3 of them! When it's pushed in, you shouldn't see any brass over any one of the carb's choke plunger. It's an easy thing to miss by mistake - usually a reassembly error where someone has had the carbs apart and put them back together while missing one of the hooks on the main choke rod. |
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