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stupot
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 25 Jul 2019    Post subject: kawasaki er5 1999 Reply with quote

Has been standing for a while. I bought it and it ran fine for a few thousand miles . It was hard to start on damp mornings, would run on one cylinder for a few mins. Today it has begun to backfire when i open it up and the revs will not pick up intermittant. O.K. at low revs but in every gear it will not pick up cleanly and splutters. I am thinking diry carbs jets or sticking points.
I am not to experienced in mechs so bow to superior knowledge and ask for what do you think. Thanks, S.
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jaffa90
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 25 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would check the fuel flow from the vacuum fuel tap to the carb, if ok then service the cv carbs (i suspect the carb diaphragms). After that try and fit an inline fuel filter just in case the tank is rotten.

If you think ignition leads then check for visible external sparks in the dark.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 26 Jul 2019    Post subject: ulterior motive I suspect Reply with quote

I put my bike in Kawasaki for a sprocket and chain re: It was ONLY when I got it back that I found the problems? I now suspect some bad workmanshipp. I had a closer look and it looks as though the screw to the right hand side panel has been moved. So now I am trying to find out about the simpler ,,,, air and fuel screw adjustment. I undrstand the fuel but not about the air. Got a good start and tickover but when it opens up it backfires. could b short of air?
Their r a number of very unproffessional proffessionals around Huh!
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jaffa90
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 26 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you suspect foul play like something put in the tank then as my first post.
The fuel air screw is for low revs.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 26 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a high chance the needle valves are badly corroded and are sticking in their seats due to ethanol corrosion. Seen it on other EX500 derived bikes. The solution is to replace them with modern, viton tipped ones which are ethanol proof.

Check your airbox isn't full of fuel, the last one I saw was and there was convincing meltiness suggesting it had been on fire with me riding it. Presumably put itself out again.

Do not fiddle with the fuel air screw. I 100% garauntee this is not your problem unless someone else has moved them. And I'd suspect on a '99 bike that's been sitting for a while, that would be too much like hard work, the heads of them probnably shear/burr the instant you tried to move them.

EDIT: also check the main power connection from the main fuse. It's a big fat, (usually white) wire running from the 30A fuse holder to the ignition switch. It's located on top of the starter solenoid. Follow the big fat wire from the battery positive to find the starter solenoid. On top of it is a red cap covering the 30A fuse with wires coming out of it. Take the top off, inspect the fuse and terminals for green powdery corrosion and wiggle the wires going into it. Do not be surprised if one comes off in your hand.
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stupot
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 27 Jul 2019    Post subject: yep foul play Reply with quote

This is top of my list here before I get sidetracked. The Fellah that I spoke to prior to me putting it into the shop, definately sucked me in. He did this by talking me out of doing the job myself(sprockets chain replacement) "Are you sure that you will get the sprocket off. You need a special tool to rivet it in, ect". Then as soon as I got it back the problems wee there. I have ridden it for three thousand trouble free miles before giving it to the shop.
I suspect something to do with the Carb setup because the tickover is higher than when I put it in?
On reconsideration of the conversation we had before the work, A lot of unecessary things were said. In short. It stinks of a Set-up.
The bike goes but on opening up it will splutter but picks up on opening. I reckon that it is only one cylinder which is playing up?
The other seems to b doing all the work. Is there an Air screw on it please?
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 27 Jul 2019    Post subject: Re: yep foul play Reply with quote

stupot wrote:

The other seems to b doing all the work. Is there an Air screw on it please?


It s NOT going to be your air screw. I once again strongly suggest you leave that alone. I bet you won't even be able to move them on a 20 year old bike.

90% of carb problems are electrical so a poor power supply or a dodgy coil earth are much more likely to be causing poor running. That corroded power cable I mentioned is a known issue on EX500s, every one I've seen has had that problem.

Trouble shooting coils is simple because the ignition system is split. You can swap the coils about and see if the problem changes side.

They can also suffer from water and muck fouling/corroding in the sparkplug recess. A quick and dirty fix for this is to stick the straw of a WD40 can in the small drain hole (between two of the fake cooling vanes on the side of the engine) and give it a good squirt. the drain hole sometimes blocks entirely and ther recess fills with water.

When did it last have new plugs?

Think about your damp mornings thing. Why would a carb fault only happen on a damp morning? Electricity doesn't like the damp.

Symptoms on a carb that would cause a pot to be missing at idle would include fuel starvation, flooding, a blocked idle jet and damaged diaphragms. So as has been mentioned, a ropy fuel tap, sticking needle valve or a torn diaphragm would be on the list.

Another issue some EX500s have is an exploding alternator rotor where the glue for one of the magnets fails and it bomb-bursts inside the left hand engine casing. Initial symptoms of this include rough running and intermittantly dropping out a cylinder due to damage to the pickup coils. I think a 99 bike should have the revised rotor fitted though.
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 27 Jul 2019    Post subject: Re: yep foul play Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
90% of carb problems are electrical so a poor power supply or a dodgy coil earth


It will likely be the aluminium stand offs for the coils that function as a sacrificial anode.
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stupot
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: found Reply with quote

that the air filter had been purposefully blocked. Plugs were running rich. Air filter blocked ect ect. Its running fine now.
Next.
The Front Brake. I have had this attended to numerous times at lots of cost. Anyway, the complete seals were replaced (by an ameteur it seems) Did not work right from the first day back. Now, in the morning it needs to be pumped up from touching the Handlebar. Pressure builds and its o.k. until I leave it to settle and again , back to the Bars. Pumps up again.
Interested to know what you think?
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 30 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the master cylinder rebuilt too or just the calliper seals?

If it's losing pressure without moving, there is a leak. If fluid isn't coming out, it's leaking back into the master cylinder.

If you're having to pump the lever after having moved the bike, it's more likely you have a warped rotor.

Out of interest, what was the air filter blocked with?
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