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PostPosted: 20:54 - 24 Aug 2019    Post subject: Mysterious Honda "Option" Connector Reply with quote

So today I was looking at the wiring for my tracker. I need ground, battery positive (i.e. always on) and switched positive (i.e. on with ignition.)

There's a 2 pin "option" connector inside the headlamp with switched positive and ground (meant for USB chargers and the like) and I did think of using that plus a wire direct from the battery. However, browsing through the service manual there's a mysterious 8-pin "option" connector under the fuel tank.

The wires are labelled: FSR + B, IG, GND, MR + B, MR GND.

MR + B seems to be main power via a 30A fuse. MR GND just goes to Frame Ground as does GND (but to a different Frame Ground on the wiring diagram.) IG comes from the ignition switch and FSR + B is another live feed but this is via a separate 30A fuse for the ABS.

I would imagine it's present on most modern Hondas but certainly all the current variants of the 500 twin engine.

I think I can use IG, MR + B and MR GND for my tracker but before I do does anyone know what this connector is actually for?
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 24 Aug 2019    Post subject: Re: Mysterious Honda "Option" Connector Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:


There's a 2 pin "option" connector does anyone know what this connector is actually for?


FTFY

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PostPosted: 08:18 - 25 Aug 2019    Post subject: Re: Mysterious Honda "Option" Connector Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:
Easy-X wrote:


There's a 2 pin "option" connector does anyone know what this connector is actually for?


FTFY

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Huh?
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 25 Aug 2019    Post subject: Re: Mysterious Honda "Option" Connector Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:
Easy-X wrote:


There's a 2 pin "option" connector does anyone know what this connector is actually for?


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You've joined parts of 2 sentences together there. Easy-X already says that the 2 pin connector is for a USB charger.

Surely the guy is asking what the 8 pin connector is for?
My response would be. With a 30A live and an ignition feed it would have probably be for a relay. The relay would be suitable to control any high power device(s) but could have included things like Spotlights/ Police type 2 way radio - or any other high current devices that might come on ( or at least have access to a 30 A supply) with the ignition.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 25 Aug 2019    Post subject: Re: Mysterious Honda "Option" Connector Reply with quote

steve the grease wrote:
Surely the guy is asking what the 8 pin connector is for?
My response would be. With a 30A live and an ignition feed it would have probably be for a relay. The relay would be suitable to control any high power device(s) but could have included things like Spotlights/ Police type 2 way radio - or any other high current devices that might come on ( or at least have access to a 30 A supply) with the ignition.


Thanks, while I can't see the PoPo hooning around on a Rebel any time soon it's probably a standard Honda thing these days. Looks like we have a contender! Now I just need to run a cable from there to a super-secret location for my tracker Shhh!
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 25 Aug 2019    Post subject: Re: Mysterious Honda "Option" Connector Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
steve the grease wrote:
Surely the guy is asking what the 8 pin connector is for?
My response would be. With a 30A live and an ignition feed it would have probably be for a relay. The relay would be suitable to control any high power device(s) but could have included things like Spotlights/ Police type 2 way radio - or any other high current devices that might come on ( or at least have access to a 30 A supply) with the ignition.


Thanks, while I can't see the PoPo hooning around on a Rebel any time soon it's probably a standard Honda thing these days. Looks like we have a contender! Now I just need to run a cable from there to a super-secret location for my tracker Shhh!


OK then, forget the radio and substitute heated grips, or something. It's always a good thing to avoid putting a high current through the ignition switch , so a relay is a good idea anyway.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 26 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its either for an Averto/some other alarm or its for connecting a quad harness to for accessories such as heated bgrips.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 28 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's this connector called?

https://i.imgur.com/AR0fvOV.jpg?1

I thought it was an Econoseal but the indexing around the sides is different:

https://www.kabelschuhe-shop.de/media/image/product/4074/lg/amp-econoseal-j-set-8-polig-05-15mm_2.jpg
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 31 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

So looking at the various connectors under the fuel tank there's a mixture of Econoseal and... whatever the other connector style is! As I have an 8-pin plug and socket in Econoseal I'm going to de-pin and replace the Honda thing but keep the wiring order the same.

The main differences between the two are mere fractions of a millimetre - so annoying!

Got as far as depressurising and removing the tank and de-pinned the original before the rain started Sad

<addendum> It always starts with "disconnect your battery earth" and when you're pissing about with current carrying connectors this is especially true. Stay safe out there Smile
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 31 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
So what's this connector called?

https://i.imgur.com/AR0fvOV.jpg?1


Sumitomo HX 060? (Couldn't find a UK source.)
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 31 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
So what's this connector called?

https://i.imgur.com/AR0fvOV.jpg?1


Sumitomo HX 060? (Couldn't find a UK source.)


Good find! Alas, too late Sad All wired in with Econoseal connectors now.
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