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iridium
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 05 May 2020    Post subject: Suzuki TS 100 Battery Hook up Reply with quote

I've got a 1978 Suzuki TS 100 that I've been running without a battery for some time.
I'd like to put turn signals on it and also have the neutral indicator light work, so I picked up a battery.

I'm not good with wiring diagrams, but it looks like the negative goes to the chassis, but I'm not sure where the positive should go.

There doesn't seem to be an obvious wire by the battery box - which is on the right side of the frame. There is what appears to be a red wire under the seat.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 06 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it wired for turn signals?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=1978+suzuki+ts+100+wiring+diagram&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=A7gg2QFq5FPHWM%253A%252C_wxjxGMwf7mBQM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSH8s8RSsUl49YWQVi51xHGqgzbew&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFrNOY5Z3pAhXSZxUIHSYRANYQ9QEwAHoECAkQFg

Third pic in?

A red wire from the battery should have an inline fuse to the ignition switch.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 06 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is wired for turn signals.

I have looked at the wiring diagram a lot, and I just don't understand the connection of the battery positive. It looks like it gets connected to the rectifier?
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 06 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find the rectifier and output wires,
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PostPosted: 03:46 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

So here's a pic of the rectifier on my bike. Do I need to tap into the + terminal with the + on the battery?

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Find the rectifier and output wires,
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the red wire under the seat is connected to the ignition switch at the other end and has nothing attached at that end, that's the one you want.

In fairness, all red wires on that bike SHOULD be connected to the battery positive somewhere along their length but you shouldn't need to "tap into" one. That's assuming it hasn't been messed about with. The black tape on the rectifier makes me a tad worried it may have been.

As above, there should be an inline fuse in the wire coming off the battery positive.

So if unmessed with and you have an unattached red wire under the seat, fit a (?15A) inline fuse holder and fuse to the end of that wire, then attach the other side of the fuse holder to the battery positive. I would use an automotive blade fuse holder because they are easy to buy fuses for in any filling station.

It does not have a fuse box so don't worry about looking for one.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

These old bikes tend to have an in-lne fuse holder on the battery positive, Maybe you can find the remnants of one somewhere..
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
These old bikes tend to have an in-lne fuse holder on the battery positive, Maybe you can find the remnants of one somewhere..


Yes, usually looks like a small brass mushroom on the end of the wire, plastic has commonly disintegrated. Although if the uninsulated end of the fuse holder has been flopping about and hit the frame, it might have cooked the charging coil.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone for your help. I believe this description fits my situation the best. I'm going to trace the red wire under the seat. Hopefully that's the one. I've picked up a 15A fuse as well.

Once it's connected, should i see a brighter headlight or will it still vary with the RPMs?

Wondering how to confirm that I've got the batter hooked up correctly.

stinkwheel wrote:
If the red wire under the seat is connected to the ignition switch at the other end and has nothing attached at that end, that's the one you want.

In fairness, all red wires on that bike SHOULD be connected to the battery positive somewhere along their length but you shouldn't need to "tap into" one. That's assuming it hasn't been messed about with. The black tape on the rectifier makes me a tad worried it may have been.

As above, there should be an inline fuse in the wire coming off the battery positive.

So if unmessed with and you have an unattached red wire under the seat, fit a (?15A) inline fuse holder and fuse to the end of that wire, then attach the other side of the fuse holder to the battery positive. I would use an automotive blade fuse holder because they are easy to buy fuses for in any filling station.

It does not have a fuse box so don't worry about looking for one.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

iridium wrote:


Once it's connected, should i see a brighter headlight or will it still vary with the RPMs?


It will have no effect on the headlight.

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Wondering how to confirm that I've got the batter hooked up correctly.


First-off, the neutral light, brake light, horn and flashers ought to work.

For a dynamic test, connect a multimeter across the battery terminals and start the engine. The voltage should increase with revs up to about 8.5V or so. or connect an ammeter (on the 10A setting) in series with the battery positive. Should be getting somewhere between 1 and 3 amps with the engine running.

A dirty test is to try the horn which will most likely sound like a dying asthmatic frog and should get louder and more horn-like as you rev the engine up. This woudl indicate the battery is charging.

If the accessory lights are working but the battery doesn't seem to be charging, change that rectifier, they break for fun.

If the headlight is working, the charging coil is intact The lights use half of it.Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so I connected positive of battery to the red wire under the seat.
Started the bike up and it measured about 5.84v I revved the bike and it went up to 6.04 or so.
No horn.
No neutral indicator light.
No turn signal indicator - although the switch is there, no lights connected yet.

I'm thinking that the red wire under the seat isn't the correct one?
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