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PostPosted: 09:21 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Aluminium welding? Reply with quote

Just putting a thought out there?

So the engine in project ‘Scrapheap Hyosung’ might need replacing.

I found this on thief-bay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l2632&_nkw=hyosung+gt+125+r+engine&_sacat=10063&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=12&_osacat=10063&_odkw=hyosung+gt250r+engine
The rear engine mount is cracked.
Would aluminium welding the crack be safe on such a vital/stressed part of the bike?

I seek your opinions oh mighty BCF Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a stressed member in an assembly then welding repairs need some fairly critical thought, planning and specific proceedure/s. Those factors may make repair un-economical.
If not a load bearing frame component then welding failure has less life threatening consequences.
I'd pass. (Not a welding pun.)

Cracked?

What cracked it?

The other part it was attached to when it was all rapidly deccelarated by a big wall?
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be straightforward. When you say "stressed", is the engine a stressed componet, i.e. forming part of the frame, or does the rear mount just secure the engine into the frame? I agree with MCN in that it does look like crash damage. The pictures are not very good, which is not a plus point. A pity you missed the one sold in June! What's the matter with your current engine?.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

That engine looks like shit, you can get most of a bike for less. Question what other hidden damage it has, I would not bother.

Aluminium is easy to weld, the problem is the Heat Affected Zone, causes brittleness, and would ideally undergo heat treatment post welding. For unstressed parts it would be no problem. I would say that crack can be welded, with hobby grade mig kit to a suitable standard if the HAZ is minimised, copper pipe with water pumped through and some heatsinking.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Re: Aluminium welding? Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
So the engine in project ‘Scrapheap Hyosung’ might need replacing.


What's up with the original engine?
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Re: Aluminium welding? Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
pepperami wrote:
So the engine in project ‘Scrapheap Hyosung’ might need replacing.


What's up with the original engine?


Hmmm? Not to sure yet as I haven’t got it to turn over on the starter motor yet.
Putting it into gear and pushing feels REALLY stiff, however it’s not seized, it cycles all the way round and doesn’t make any horrible noises.
Squirted oil down the plug holes = puddle on the floor a few minutes later Shocked .
Strange thing is that it doesn’t look damaged from the outside?
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not only does the rocker box photo make you think that the bike has been out in the rain for 5 years, the overall blurryness of all the pictures is terrible. If I was selling something on Ebay I would re do them after wiping the camera lens clean. Hiding something?
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve the grease wrote:
Not only does the rocker box photo make you think that the bike has been out in the rain for 5 years, the overall blurryness of all the pictures is terrible. If I was selling something on Ebay I would re do them after wiping the camera lens clean. Hiding something?


Yes possibly, I agree.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question is- why are you focusing on the Hyosung, and not your 2t's? Cool I'd even help you if you were anywhere near xD
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
The question is- why are you focusing on the Hyosung, and not your 2t's? Cool I'd even help you if you were anywhere near xD


Ahh! Thank you Thumbs Up
I don’t own any 2t’s. ???
I’ve owned many 2t’s in the past and wish I still had a 2smoke today.

As for the project ‘scrapper Hyosung’ , it was really cheap and at worst it can act as a donor bike for my Hyosung GT250r as many parts are the same.
I can pull it apart and learn on it without damaging my lovely GT250R.

Project ‘Scrappy Hyosung ‘ is on the cusp of being a salvageable bike??
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Blurredman wrote:
The question is- why are you focusing on the Hyosung, and not your 2t's? Cool I'd even help you if you were anywhere near xD


Ahh! Thank you Thumbs Up
I don’t own any 2t’s. ???
I’ve owned many 2t’s in the past and wish I still had a 2smoke today.


Ah.. I thought you had Jawas.. Had being the operative word i suppose Smile
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a cheap bore camera and check the compression.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:

Ah.. I thought you had Jawas.. Had being the operative word i suppose Smile


I did have a Jawa a couple or three years back.
I’ll bet my last dollar that a Jawa would be easier to put straight than this modern Hyosung!.

No valves , no spares issues, no fairing, a lot less plastic, no stupid diaphragm carbs , no stupid twatty electronic console!, come back Jawa all is forgiven Very Happy
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