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 chupacabra Renault 5 Driver

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 Posted: 20:09 - 07 Oct 2020 Post subject: Replacing ignition barrel in a scooter |
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Hello, I wanted to ask how difficult is to change an ignition barrel in a scooter. My Yamaha Cygnus has been recently stolen, but fortunately it's been recovered, but my key no longer works, it's impossible to turn the barrel. I assume that dipsh*ts who have stolen it, changed the ignition barrel. Also the kickstart doesn't work.
I wanted to ask how difficult could it be to fix it, for someone like me who is not a mechanic.
I would take it to a workshop, but once it's fixed I'd like to sell it and after it's been stolen, it's been declared SORN, so it would cost a lot just to transport it using a van to the nearest workshop and after it's repaired, back to my place.
The scooter model is Yamaha XC 125 Cygnus X (2005). Thanks in advance for any advice |
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The normal method the Scrots use is to Bash the steering until either the stop steering stem or lock breaks !
Take the front off and remove the lock you may need to drill or chisel the bolts out
The lock may be broken I neever seen one replaced or just jamed !
The wireing will be cut
There may be frame or steering stem dammage
Try to charge the battery odds on it is dead ____________________ Dave
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 chupacabra Renault 5 Driver

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Thanks for all replies, but it seems quite complicated.
Here's a photo how it looks like, maybe someone could give more detailed advice for someone who is very limited when it comes to scooter mechanics
Also, would it be OK to push a scooter to the workshop, if it's SORN? I'm mean if police could stop me for this or maybe I could get caught by one of the ANPR cameras etc? |
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| chupacabra wrote: | Also, would it be OK to push a scooter to the workshop, if it's SORN? I'm mean if police could stop me for this or maybe I could get caught by one of the ANPR cameras etc? |
If you're that worried about ANPR what would happen if it's on the back of a trailer? Cover the number plate if you're that worried.
As for the plod, yes expect them to stop you and query what you're up to as 9/10 times someone pushing a scooter in a wrecked state has just stolen it. Remember to have your licence on you!
With the plastics off I doubt there's any more to it than drilling out two security bolts and unplugging a connector. Might be other stuff damaged though. Last stolen scooter I saw (dumped in my work's carpark) the scrotes had a done a truly awful job of hotwiring  ____________________ Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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 chupacabra Renault 5 Driver

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Thanks again for all advice. I will check with the nearest workshop with a decent feedback, how much they would charge me to have it fixed, and also transport it to the workshop and then back to my place.
If it's too expensive; I'll try to do it myself and like Polarbear recommended I will try to take off more plastic covers and fix it myself (and upload more photos in case I need more assistance which I'm pretty sure I'll need ) |
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Hello, I still haven't fixed the scooter. According to the advice I was given earlier, I managed to open front panel and check the damage. Looks like some cables have been cut (visible on the photos I've taken) and the ignition switch is not turning with my original key (I think it doesn't go all the way in, so maybe something is stuck inside). I don't know whether the ignition switch has been swapped or if it's the original ignition switch that has been damaged (probably the later one).
By reading above description and looking at the photos, can anyone advise how can it be fixed? Beside of repairing the ignition switch (to be able to start the engine), it would be great if the steering lock and the opening of the under seat storage would be possible to fix. Before it was all controlled through the ignition switch (by turning the key left, opposite direction to starting the engine).
I tried to find a replacement ignition switch that will be compatible with this model, Yamaha XC 125 Cygnus X (2005), but no luck. I also asked couple of workshops and they said that they couldn't find compatible part, also nothing on eBay.
Would it help if I take out the ignition switch? To find a replacement or with anything else? I haven't seen any serial or part number on it and one of the screws holding it in place is stripped, so it may be difficult to take it out, but if you think it would help, I should be able to take it out. Thank you in advance for any advice |
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Best of luck the Cygnus only ran for a couple of years Yamaha Have discontinued the inigtion switch !
Csml seem to have lock sets but £££ ____________________ Dave
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Like Davebike's posted; it's almost impossible to find that part.
I found the one above and contacted the seller, but it's not compatible with my model (2005)  |
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