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PostPosted: 21:20 - 16 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im sure you're average voter is well versed in the history of trans psychology and well able to make up their own mind. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340629166_Transsexualism_and_psychoanalytic_perspectives_gender_theories_and_clinics
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 16 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
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59% of those who responded disagreed with the overall purpose of the Bill

Two-thirds of Scots oppose Scot Govt’s gender self-ID Bill


The equalities committee report wasn't exactly representative though:

"The Committee received 11,154 submissions."

That's 0.2% of the Scottish population. You can be fairly certain that the ones that would have responded would have been representative of objectors.

The Christian poll had around 1100 responders. Somehow I suspect that a Christian poll may be a tad slanted...
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 16 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It's a lunatic bill supported by lunatics.


It's really none of your business though. It doesn't affect you and the people it does affect support it.


That telescope cap really is firmly stuck, isn't it? Or perhaps you are actually blind.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Alternatively,
59% of those who responded disagreed with the overall purpose of the Bill

Two-thirds of Scots oppose Scot Govt’s gender self-ID Bill


The equalities committee report wasn't exactly representative though:

"The Committee received 11,154 submissions."

That's 0.2% of the Scottish population. You can be fairly certain that the ones that would have responded would have been representative of objectors.

The Christian poll had around 1100 responders. Somehow I suspect that a Christian poll may be a tad slanted...

You mean the Scottish Parliament’s Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee’s own report, which they ignored anyway? The second one was YouGov for The Times.
The survey you posted only had 2000 respondents.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Alternatively,
59% of those who responded disagreed with the overall purpose of the Bill

Two-thirds of Scots oppose Scot Govt’s gender self-ID Bill


The equalities committee report wasn't exactly representative though:

"The Committee received 11,154 submissions."

That's 0.2% of the Scottish population. You can be fairly certain that the ones that would have responded would have been representative of objectors.

The Christian poll had around 1100 responders. Somehow I suspect that a Christian poll may be a tad slanted...


Id love to see the poll of other religious groups.
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Sturgeon is dodgy and she'll have thought this up as a wedge to get the result she wants, independence


We'll have to get a Labour government to slowly fuck Devolution up for the SNP like they do with the NHS, because they can get away with it more than the Tories
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
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59% of those who responded disagreed with the overall purpose of the Bill

Two-thirds of Scots oppose Scot Govt’s gender self-ID Bill


The equalities committee report wasn't exactly representative though:

"The Committee received 11,154 submissions."

That's 0.2% of the Scottish population. You can be fairly certain that the ones that would have responded would have been representative of objectors.

The BBC infographic you posted was based on 2,038 respondents.

Rob Fzs wrote:
Sturgeon is dodgy and she'll have thought this up as a wedge to get the result she wants, independence

Bizzare choice, you'd have thought something with pretty much universal support would be a wiser move.
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Bizzare choice, you'd have thought something with pretty much universal support would be a wiser move.


She was Pro remain and used it as another indi drive , while 1 million Scots voted leave, if the shoe just about fits, she'll lace it up
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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She was Pro remain and used it as another indi drive , while 1 million Scots voted leave, if the shoe just about fits, she'll lace it up


But if you voted leave in Scotland then your not Scottish.
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We'll have to get a Labour government to slowly fuck Devolution up for the SNP like they do with the NHS, because they can get away with it more than the Tories


Wtf? Please explain.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rob Fzs wrote:
M.C wrote:


Bizzare choice, you'd have thought something with pretty much universal support would be a wiser move.


She was Pro remain and used it as another indi drive , while 1 million Scots voted leave, if the shoe just about fits, she'll lace it up


The majority of people across Scotland were pro remain. Scotland returned a solid vote for remain not just SNP voters.

Sod all to do with independence.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The BBC infographic you posted was based on 2,038 respondents.


It was used to show where the support and opposition largely lay.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Sturgeon is dodgy and she'll have thought this up as a wedge to get the result she wants, independence


This had sod all to do with independence until the arrogant tory mob weighed in.
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The majority of people across Scotland were pro remain. Scotland returned a solid vote for remain not just SNP voters.

Sod all to do with independence.


Tell that to Der Haggisfuhrer. Anything thats the slightest bit different from the rest of the UK is used as a reason to jump into the rubber dinghy of independence. Im surprised she hasn't found a way of using drug overdose deaths to promote it.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The majority of people across Scotland were pro remain. Scotland returned a solid vote for remain not just SNP voters.

Sod all to do with independence.


Tell that to Der Haggisfuhrer. Anything thats the slightest bit different from the rest of the UK is used as a reason to jump into the rubber dinghy of independence. Im surprised she hasn't found a way of using drug overdose deaths to promote it.


Ah. Conspiracy theorist rant. mhm. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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Ah. Conspiracy theorist rant. mhm. Rolling Eyes Laughing


No theory of any conspiracy, its all just open politics, nasty bullshit politics.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4823235#4823235

Fix your quotes fool.

Islander wrote:
M.C wrote:

The BBC infographic you posted was based on 2,038 respondents.


It was used to show where the support and opposition largely lay.

But you talked about sample sizes, and dismissed the equalities committee report that had ~11,000 submissions vs ~2000 for the online survey cited by the BBC.
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Fix your quotes fool.


WTF is your problem?
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 17 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
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Fix your quotes fool.


WTF is your problem?

My problem is you quoted what Rob wrote under my name...

The reply was only two quotes anyway so you didn't need to break the tags.
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Have we got to the point were Scottish identity can only be defined in relation to how much they hate the English?
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My problem is you quoted what Rob wrote under my name...

The reply was only two quotes anyway so you didn't need to break the tags.


Ok i see that now. Why you have to be such a dick about it will remain a mystery though.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 18 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Have we got to the point were Scottish identity can only be defined in relation to how much they hate the English?


Who said Scottish people hate the English? They just resent English interference in Scottish business.

Lobby your MP to allow an independence referendum and you may just never have to worry about it again. Laughing
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Ribenapigeon wrote:
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My problem is you quoted what Rob wrote under my name...

The reply was only two quotes anyway so you didn't need to break the tags.


Ok i see that now. Why you have to be such a dick about it will remain a mystery though.


It's annoying when quotes are misattributed. It's not hard to check the tag pairs for completeness and using the preview button rather than the submit will show you where you've gone wrong.

Forum use for dummies tm.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 18 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The majority of people across Scotland were pro remain. Scotland returned a solid vote for remain not just SNP voters.

Sod all to do with independence.


So the Million people that voted Leave in Scotland have no voice?

Funny because the people that lost the referendum on independence never shut their trap
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It's annoying.....


Yes, and that's all.
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