Quickshifting

[Easy-X]

After seeing numerous videos with people bang on about this I thought I'd have a go. Clutchless upshifting obviously, blipping the throttle for downshifts sounds complicated

Is this something people actually do day to day? I could see a value if your clutch cable snaps...
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[jeffyjeff]

A coworker (and former amature road racer) routinely rides clutchless shifts on his Kawasaki ZRX1200R. He's had that bike since 2002; he rides with finesse, and he logs 500 miles a week on his daily commute. I attempted to perfect the technique on my first VFR, and got reasonably consistent on the upshifts. Downshifting takes a little more skill.
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[MCN]

My litre bike came with a quickshifter.
It simply removes another thought process/memory item.
Cuts ignition until shift lever is released.

I never did much clutchless changing as the crunching always sounded too expensive to make it worth the effort to learn. And no real need for this if riding public roads.

Racing sure. Racing is a lot of things removed/put together consistently for fastest times.

One doesn't win the race with one fast corner or lap but maintaining the savings and quickshifter help ensure that.

Mental loading adds to lap times.

I've not had such a burden if nipping down to Tesco though.

My 2p worth.
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[xX-Alex-Xx]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

I shift up with and without clutch. It's not that I make a conscious decision to use one or the other, you just know when the throttle happens to be in the right place to make clutchless work smoothly. I don't shift down without clutch though. I thought there were practical reasons why it was unwise and there seemed to be no advantage.

[stinkwheel]

There's a point if you have the hammer down where you find you don't have time for the clutch. That's also the time where the clutchless shifting is most effective and smoothest.

You get a feel for it by loading the lever, then when the revs match, it almost shifts itself.

I also clutchless upshift a lot with a pillion, it's smoother, less rocking back and forth and clashing of helmets.
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[MarJay]

I rarely use the clutch for upshifts. I haven't for years. First to second I use the clutch, but other than that it's clutchless all the way. You just put your toe on the lever and then flick your wrist... and the gear clicks into place.

I've never really understood why people find it difficult, but I assume they've never really been taught it?
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[chickenstrip]

I just found that at some point in my riding 'career', I was barely actually moving the clutch lever most of the time, a bare squeeze on the lever, can't actually be operating the clutch. I've always blipped on downshifts, just how I learned to do things without much actual thought for it. I suppose I just figured that's what you do, and now it's something I don't give any thought to, just natural.
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[RhynoCZ]

[Easy-X]

[MarJay]

[Easy-X]

Probably better if I look into what MT-07/XSR/Tenere ppl do, gearboxes not all being created equal.
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[virus]

I dont think marjay is suggesting holding the lever up all the way from the bottom of 2nd until you get to the top and want to change to 3rd. More a case of when you want to shift up you lift and hold the lever up then dip the throttle for half a second and it'l drop in.

Personally i cant remember the last time i used clutch on the way up once im past 2nd. A light dip of the clutch and a blip of the throttle on the way down always seemed smoother than fully disengaging drive and then feeding it back in too, especially when 2 up as Stinkwheel mentioned.
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[RhynoCZ]

[MarJay]

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[redeem ouzzer]

Keeping the lever preloaded between shifts isn't a good idea. It ruins selector forks in the long term as they rub on the adjacent gear if the lever is loaded.
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[stinkwheel]

To be clear, I wasn't advocating keeping the lever preloaded. That leads to all sorts of issues, not allowing it to return properly then mis-shifting being one of them. I was meaning I preload it as I want to shift then dip the throttle, when the revs match, it'll snick through. Takes a fraction of a second.
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[Fisty]