Boiler Plus compliance for luddites..

[A100man]

Installing a new combi.. Gas man tells me (since 2018) all new ones need to have one of four energy saving 'add-ons'.

Most people opt for a Nest or other such WiFi wireless gubbins.
but they are costly and too techie for me.

Can I just install external temp sensor for so called 'weather compensation/loading' ? is it as easy as connecting the appropriate sensor into the swish new boiler?

Cheers
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Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750

Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600

[Hong Kong Phooey]

I fitted Hive to a dual channel gravity feed back boiler, that was a rats nest of wires and took a good hour to sort out.

Then a few weeks later I changed over to a combi boiler, two wires for power and one other for switching. It's simple, if you're not confident any heating engineer could do it in ten minutes. Mine is the dual channel model but I only use the heating side now, the water switching relay is just redundant but I could add a low power outside light or equivalent to that circuit if I wanted to.

The AA battery powered control on the wall is simple, turn the dial to change the temperature. You can also set the heating off/on cycle. I've yet to change the batteries, been in over a year.

The app is intuitive and lets you switch and program heating while you're away. You can turn the heating on an hour before you're due home if you forgot to program it or were outside of your usual routine.

I would highly recommend it over a traditional wall mounted thermostat.
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[stinkwheel]

So, you have to "have" one.

I "have" a noise reducing baffle for the micron exhaust on my VFR.
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[stinkwheel]

On the other side of the coin, I sacked off the wireless, programmable, super-duper room-stat because it was an unreliable, unpredicatable piece of shit which seemed to randomly decide when and if the heatin g would be turned on regardless of how it was programmed and replaced it with a simple 5+2 day timer and electromechanical wall 'stat.

I did however have thermostatic valves fitted on all the radiators so the wall 'stat is really just an end-game cut off switch, most of the rads are off by the time the 'stat trips.

The best thing I did for heating efficiency was let the Mrs pay for the last two fills of 1,000 litres of heating oil. Amazing how much less frequently I come home to find the heating on and windows/doors open now.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[A100man]

[stinkwheel]

You could ask him which one is most easily removed within five mionutes of him walking out of the door?

They all sound like excellent ways of needlessly over-complicating something that is relatively simple and (should be) broadly reliable.

When I said have it. I was meaning in the same way I have a baffle for the exhaust on my bike. I know I have one, it's in a box in the workshop. If you can show you've bought one, is anyone checking it's been fitted?

In my experience, having a burner going less than flat-out is a good way to soot up the sensors.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Hong Kong Phooey]

[MCN]

What was more efficient than having to humph a bucket of carbon rocks up the tenement stairs twice a day and then poking the glowing pile now and again with an iron stick?
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[t121anf]

What are the four options and where does it say you must have it fitted?

[Robby]

If flue heat recovery is one of the options, that may already be worked into the new boiler/flue package. I know my new boiler has it. It means it burns less gas to heat my house, which is a good thing.

I also have a smart thermostat, which is great for laziness, I can control the heating from my phone when I'm in bed. The wife has mostly stopped touching the thermostat now, but in the early days I could use it to turn the heat down when I was out and she had turned it up to something silly. For ultimate geekiness I could even automate it so that it automatically goes back to default every time she ties to push it too high.

The tech is there to keep your home at a comfortable temperature for less money and less effort. It works.

[MCN]

All domestic CH boilers must be condensing type now. (Or of that type of efficiency.)

Madness to not fit that type as the economics speak for them self.

Only major deal is that a drain line for condensate must be fitted to drain to ground drains/gutter drains.

The other thing is I am not qualified to remove and install a new GCH Boiler at my gaff.
Though I am more than competent to do so.
Something about GasSafe training (Expensive training)

That makes it almost impossible to even buy a GCH boiler at retail and have sum kwalifyed kunt to install, test and certify.

Thats what puts me off replacing my 2006 GCH boiler.

It works perfectly fine but I know it could be 20% more efficient if I fitted a new boiler. But that would cost £1000+ to save what over the years?
I don't run all my rads in the house and trap as much heat as possible. And wear two pair of underkrackers.
I estimate £500 per year on gas as Im not here all the time. (Vague Guestimate.)
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[stinkwheel]

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[A100man]

[Raffles]

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[Freddyfruitba...]

The relevant law (The Gas Safety [Installation and Use] Regulations 1998, as far as I'm aware) states: "No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so."

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