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Shaft
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 13 Aug 2021    Post subject: Chain Lube - BCF choice? Reply with quote

Righto, having ventured back to the dark side and bought a chain drive bike that I'm using a lot, what's the current best choice for something I can squirt out of a can?

Please don't suggest used engine oil or boiling up tins of grease on the cooker, this is the 21st century and I'm looking for something as low effort as possible, as befits somebody who finds chains so objectionable, I even called myself Shaft!

Oh, as close to zero fling as possible too, I hate having the back end of my bike covered in crap.

So, fire away, what can I go and buy that will satisfactorily do the job?
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 13 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

In true BCF Workshop style (oh, wait) I’m going to give you the answer you don’t want. Chain lube from a can, be it oil or wax, is filthy, expensive shit. Get a bottle of 90w gear oil and a 3/4” paint brush. Paint it onto the chain, then hold a rag over the lower rung and turn the back wheel by hand to wipe off the excess. It will still fling a bit but it’ll come off wheel rims easily with WD40 if it bothers you, yet you don’t need to re-apply all that often with an O-ring chain. It’s a satisfying 3-minute job. If that’s all too much, get a car.

Long-term users of aerosol chain wax should uncover the front sprocket and see the sticky ball of stones which the chain runs around. Grinding paste.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 13 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above. A small layer of gear lube applied with a small paint brush and wiped over with a rag.

Yeah, sure, spraying tins of stuff is a bit easier - but not by much, and by the time you deal with the clear up you're probably not gaining much.
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 13 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gear oil for me. Cheap as chips and does the job.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 13 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerosene and new engine oil mixed 4:1. Cleans the chain and leaves the oil behind. Been using it for years.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 13 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark gave me a can of Wurth Dry Chain lube for Xmas and I have used it a few times if I have forgotten to lube up after a rideout.

But for foreign and general UK use I use this stuff from Halfreuds,although it is cheaper if bought from other places

https://muc-off.com/products/all-weather-chain-lube-motorcycle
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 13 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use wynns clear lube. Fling isn't too bad and cleans off easily.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 13 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Granville Spray Grease & Chain Lube. It's pretty sticky stuff - certainly hard to wash off your hands - fling's not too bad. I stick a bit of scrap cardboard behind the chain while spraying, wouldn't want this stuff going anywhere near the rear tyre or brake!
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PostPosted: 04:06 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chainsaw oil (think about it !)

Usually painted on & excess wiped off but the regular runners have Scottoilers filled with it.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Kawasaki branded 6t9 chain lube. It's good. It smells nice, it doesn't fling but it does penetrate the chain well.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I don't want to agree with back scutler ...

Chainsaw oil, scotoiler, no fucks given about flingoff, stops the bike rusting.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
As much as I don't want to agree with back scutler ...

Chainsaw oil, scotoiler, no fucks given about flingoff, stops the bike rusting.


Yeah, I think it boils down to three camps: dab on old motor oil by hand, spray on overpriced <insert brand here> or Scotoiler + chainsaw oil.
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a galleon of chainsaw oil about 5 years ago for 15 quid. I reckon about half a litre is left.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Get a bottle of 90w gear oil and a 3/4” paint brush. Paint it onto the chain, then hold a rag over the lower rung and turn the back wheel by hand to wipe off the excess.


This. Emphasis is mine.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used Ipone spray lube, but I regret not using simple 90w oil. I did in fact remove the excess lube with a cloth, but it seems it wasn't enough. I had lube all over the rear rim, some in the rear indicators as well, and also the front sprocket cover was covered in black grindy grease.

I bought this lube with a cleaner as a bundle just before I got the motorcycle. Next time I will be definitely using 90w gear oil.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judging by the cleanlines of your rear wheel and how dickered in oil your chain is, yours is a garage queen.

Some of us use our bikes up to 10k miles a year (pre COVID) and put longevity and ease before how pretty it looks.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Judging by the cleanlines of your rear wheel and how dickered in oil your chain is, yours is a garage queen.

Some of us use our bikes up to 10k miles a year (pre COVID) and put longevity and ease before how pretty it looks.


Of course it's clean and well lubed (on the pic), because it was the day it was cleaned and lubed Smile

Also, does "longevity and ease" have to collide with "how pretty it looks"? Just clean it from time to time.

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PostPosted: 13:47 - 14 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotoiler. Just set it so it doesn't over lube. Sure there's a bit of fling but it's zero maintenance other than a wash from time to time.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 15 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gear oil is best. Fortnine put that one to bed.

Muck-off all weather chain spray lube is however convenient and smells like sweeties.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 15 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

90w gear oil applied with a toothbrush is about as low effort as you can get. I just use paraffin with a toothbrush and rag to clean the chain first.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 15 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still much more hassle than putting oil in a container every 300 miles.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 15 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Still much more hassle than putting oil in a container every 300 miles.


Thy're great until they let go and dump it all over your rear tyre. That's why I ripped it out and binned it. I'd rather spend a minute or so once a week. Can also check the split link while I'm doing it.

Also - White wheels, and Scottoilers don't mix.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 15 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
In true BCF Workshop style (oh, wait) I’m going to give you the answer you don’t want. Chain lube from a can, be it oil or wax, is filthy, expensive shit. Get a bottle of 90w gear oil and a 3/4” paint brush. Paint it onto the chain, then hold a rag over the lower rung and turn the back wheel by hand to wipe off the excess. It will still fling a bit but it’ll come off wheel rims easily with WD40 if it bothers you, yet you don’t need to re-apply all that often with an O-ring chain. It’s a satisfying 3-minute job. If that’s all too much, get a car.

Long-term users of aerosol chain wax should uncover the front sprocket and see the sticky ball of stones which the chain runs around. Grinding paste.


That^^

All of that - including the need for regular removal of the grinding paste under the front sprocket cover.

If you don't like the smell of the gear oil, you can do the same thing (at a higher cost) with Scott Oil.

Or you could fit a Scott oiler or a PDOiler, set the drip rate and forget it (apart from topping the reservoir up periodically).

I'd recommend the oiler.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 15 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:


I'd recommend the oiler.



My 929 came with a Scottoiler already installed. Really good bit of kit. I installed a new chain/sprocket after I bought the bike, and put something like 20k on that bike. The chain was still pretty much in brand new condition when I sold it on - literally zero pull-away rearward from the back sprocket.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 15 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The design of a scotoiler makes dumping it on the wheel almost impossible. Even if the valve stuck open, it's still gravity fed and with the bike on it's side stand after 3 hours you would have a puddle next to your back wheel and not on it.
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