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Freddyfruitba...
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 10 Feb 2023    Post subject: NW 200 and all other racing in N Ireland cancelled Reply with quote
"All motorcycle road racing in Northern Ireland cancelled, Brexit blamed.
The Motorcycle Union of Ireland has announced that all road racing and short circuit racing in Northern Ireland has been cancelled due to spiralling insurance costs."

https://www.autosport.com/roadracing/news/all-motorcycle-road-racing-in-northern-ireland-cancelled-brexit-blamed/10430170/

Bollocks. Was hoping to finally go this year, too
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 10 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
It’s not clear how Brexit has anything to do with it apart from being the new sick note (“whiplash”). I think a resolution will be found and the racing will go ahead.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 10 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hope so, I am bored to death of whining remoaners blaming Brexit for everything.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 10 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
It’s not clear how Brexit has anything to do with it apart from being the new sick note (“whiplash”). I think a resolution will be found and the racing will go ahead.


Aye, sounds like its down to Allianz pulling out and no replacement insurer can be found .. The glib 'brexit' throwaway line makes no sense if they're not support events in the Irish republic EU member state either. A British insurer could do themselves a favour by stepping in to cover this rather than relying on ze germans
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 11 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poacher wrote:
Hope so, I am bored to death of whining remoaners blaming Brexit for everything.


Brexit isn't to blame for everything, there are very few things for which Brexit is entirely to blame. But it has contributed to making a lot of things in the UK slightly worse and provided basically no benefits at all.

The TL:DR of this article is that Brexit did mean that they needed to find a new insurer, but they found one a while ago, and it's that new insurer which has now told them they want a lot more money to cover them, which the organisers can't afford. So "brexit to blame" seems an unfair analysis.

EDIT - Also, this is just sad news, I love watching the NI road racing.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 12 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
It’s not clear how Brexit has anything to do with it apart from being the new sick note (“whiplash”). I think a resolution will be found and the racing will go ahead.


Brexit is to blame thus:

Previously when we were in the EU we had an agreement as part of that which meant financial services could cross borders. That meant that Northern Irish road racing could use an EU based insurer. Now we're out of the EU the law mandates they use a British insurer as financial services can't cross borders. No British insurer will cover the events because of the risk. If we had not left the EU there would still be Northern Irish road racing.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 13 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
It’s not clear how Brexit has anything to do with it apart from being the new sick note (“whiplash”). I think a resolution will be found and the racing will go ahead.


Brexit is to blame thus:

Previously when we were in the EU we had an agreement as part of that which meant financial services could cross borders. That meant that Northern Irish road racing could use an EU based insurer. Now we're out of the EU the law mandates they use a British insurer as financial services can't cross borders. No British insurer will cover the events because of the risk. If we had not left the EU there would still be Northern Irish road racing.


Ironically it seem that the move to 'regulatory equivalence' between the UK-EU ( and hence the approval of a trading agreement in finacial services) is being held up by the 'impasse' over the NI protocol.
i.e EU digging its heels in.
IMO the whole Brexit thing turned bad only once folk realised the implications on the NI situation which hardly anyone foresaw.

PS still not sure if this is the reason that Allianz withdrew - did they not insure in 2022?
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 13 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
A100man wrote:

IMO the whole Brexit thing turned bad only once folk realised the implications on the NI situation which hardly anyone foresaw.


Except that Northern Irish constitutional professor who put out that video that all the Brexiteers said was EU propaganda...
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 13 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
A100man wrote:

IMO the whole Brexit thing turned bad only once folk realised the implications on the NI situation which hardly anyone foresaw.


Except that Northern Irish constitutional professor who put out that video that all the Brexiteers said was EU propaganda...


I missed that tbf.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 13 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
A100man wrote:


I missed that tbf.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USTypBKEd8Y

I was a Brexit supporter and this is the video that changed my mind. Pretty much everything he said is playing out as he said it. We may yet get away with it, but nothing will be the same, and I strongly suspect we'll go back to the EU but without our rebate or veto power we used to have.
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 13 Feb 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
A100man wrote:


PS still not sure if this is the reason that Allianz withdrew - did they not insure in 2022?


I don't know the ins and outs of it, it's possible a UK based insurer did insure them in 2022, or maybe we were still in the EU cooldown period where some things were allowed and some things weren't due to the NI protocol talks. I think that did end 1st of Jan this year?
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 15 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's back on!

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