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PostPosted: 23:01 - 24 Jun 2024    Post subject: Anti-social behaviour - Puff Reply with quote

One of our neighbours smoke all hours, day and night. The typical sort that also complain they're poor and have no money... but own an XL Bully Rolling Eyes It gets to the point we have to shut all our windows and I swear it still seeps in through the brickwork! Can't have the grandkids play outside getting stoned and certainly can't hang any washing out Sad We've tried dropping subtle hints but I don't think they're registering.

I'd welcome any suggestions without creating the basis for a fly-on-the-wall documentary.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 24 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Councils can investigate smoke coming from premises that is classed as a statutory nuisance, this is outlined in the Environmental Protection Act 1990. - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/43/contents

Smoke needs to conform to the below criteria to be considered a statutory nuisance:

Unreasonably and substantially interferes with the use or enjoyment of a home or other premises

Is injurious to health or is likely to injure health.

Statutory nuisance is not usually used for weed, however, in the right circumstances it can be.
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 25 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

So better to talk to the council rather than the housing association? And we're putting it in the same camp as bonfires, that makes sense.

One possible complication: it's a council house sub-let. Would the on-paper tenant end up with the fines?
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 25 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
it's a council house sub-let.



The council/housing association will be very unhappy about that. It's a breach of the rental agreement.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 25 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

in my experience the council take years to get anything done, and that means dealing with a neighbour that hates you, once they find out about the complaint, which can be real fun.

in the first instance i would talk to the neighbour directly and tell them your issues.
if they dont stop then let them know you will take things further.

it may be that they dont realise it bothers you.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 25 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
in my experience the council take years to get anything done, and that means dealing with a neighbour that hates you, once they find out about the complaint, which can be real fun.


This is what I'm very conscious of Sad Someone reported their XL Bully and "lost their shit" would be a concise summary as to their reaction. I'll start a diary, maybe I'm overreacting.

As for the sub-let that's tricky too. The official tenant is vaguely related to us so any spanners in the works means daggers at every family event going forward.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 25 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy x There is the Solution GET THE VAGUELY RELATED To contact him As Vaguely Related WILL end up Shit Creek if he is found to be Sub Letting . All you have to do is TELL Vaguely Related you have heard Through the Grapevine Someone is Going to Report to the Housing as one of their Family Members needs somewhere to live . .
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 25 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ, its like trying to read one of Trump's tweets....
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 25 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the gist of it. Drop some hints about "profiles being raised" "heads above parapets" that sort of thing.
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 26 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to say... Why aren't you going straight to your family members who are subletting? They can get rid of the tenants for any reason, and any hint of any kind of trouble would also get your family member in trouble too... so it's not worth it for either party.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 26 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was half way through drafting a passive-aggressive email to the housing association when I stopped myself, "whoa! let's have a think about this..."

Apologies for using you guys as a sounding board but it's one of those situations where a casual conversation IRL can end up in the wrong ears very quickly and the neighbours are enough of a problem with our fake, painted on smiles without making them outright enemies.

But I can see now the best line of attack is the sub-let angle rather than a "bonfire" ASBO from the council.
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