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Diddums
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 19 Sep 2025    Post subject: 530 ---> 520 sprocket conversion Reply with quote

Quick quesion.

To eliminate the obvious stuff, I'll be replacing both sprockets and the chain. I'll be keeping the tooth count stock, and I'll be using decent kit (DID chain, Renthal sprockets).

My only questions are regarding the spline count and thickness, how can I tell which of the dozens of 520 pitch, 15 tooth front sprockets will fit?

And is this is a straight swap, or do I need spacers or anything?

The bike is a 1990 ZZR600.

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PostPosted: 14:33 - 20 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you downsizing the chain size?
What do you feel would be the benefits?

A friend did the conversion on his 1995 R6 and within a few thousand miles it was stretched out of any further adjustment.Different if he was using the bike as a tracker,but on the road no difference was detected.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 20 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was my first thought too.

Why? If my (optimistically) 11bhp enfield bullet can mamage to get about the place on a 530 chain and sprockets, I think it'll make the sum total of next to no difference to a ZZR.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 20 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google suggests some people do this hoping to direct more powah! to the back wheel due to the marginally lower rotating mass. The initial cost may be marginally lower too but offset by more rapid chain wear. All fine if you like (or you’re Marc Marquez) but the OP’s uncertainty over “which will fit?” would seem to render the whole enterprise unwise. I doubt you’d need spacers in any case.
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 21 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone (who is not a world-class competitor where tiny margins do make meaningful differences) that thinks that is deluding themselves.
Do they also fit new tyres then take a belt sander to them to remove all that heavy rubber?

You're certainly not going to notice any difference on a lardy underpowered ZZR600 from 35 years ago.
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Diddums
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 21 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the responses all!

To be honest I'm just messing around. I'm not expecting any additional power or scalpel handling, but if the chain and sprockets need changing, I may as well give it a shot.

Given that this bike is 100% just a messing around and learning excercise (I've not even done a single mile on it yet) I've not got anything to lose.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 21 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diddums wrote:


Given that this bike is 100% just a messing around and learning excercise (I've not even done a single mile on it yet) I've not got anything to lose.


Except if your undersized chain breaks and smashes the crankcases?

I feel you are setting yourself up with a lot of work to fix something that isn't broken by making it worse in most measureable ways.

To add another potential headache to this mod, you'll probably need a new chain slider too because the one you have will have two nice grooves 3/8" apart worn into it and the new chain will have the plates 2/8" apart.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 21 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diddums wrote:
but if the chain and sprockets need changing, I may as well give it a shot.

Give what a shot? What's the objective?

Just because the bike is a learning exercise doesn't mean you have to do things which are bad for the sole reason of demonstrating to yourself that you shouldn't have fitted those parts.

Diddums wrote:
I've not got anything to lose.

You've also got nothing to gain from putting a 520 chain on. Nothing good could come from it. There are no advantages.

You've put quite a lot of time into fixing the bike up yet now when you're nearly finished you want to start putting the wrong parts on.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/kawasaki-zzr600-progress-thread.19001282/page-6

What is it that you're trying to achieve by fitting a 520 chain and sprockets?
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Diddums
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 21 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, you all make some great points. I'll stick with the 530.

On to my favourite part, ordering stuff.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 21 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Google suggests some people do this hoping to direct more powah! to the back wheel due to the marginally lower rotating mass.

"Depending on the bike and what size you are converting from you can gain 4-8 hp just by putting a good quality 520 chain and lighter sprockets on the bike. The lighter chain and sprockets create less centrifugal force which lets the motor spin them easier."

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https://www.sportbikes.net/threads/520-conversion-explain.450299/
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 21 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Google suggests some people do this hoping to direct more powah! to the back wheel due to the marginally lower rotating mass.

"Depending on the bike and what size you are converting from you can gain 4-8 hp just by putting a good quality 520 chain and lighter sprockets on the bike. The lighter chain and sprockets create less centrifugal force which lets the motor spin them easier."

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https://www.sportbikes.net/threads/520-conversion-explain.450299/


Quote:
Going to a 520 will make your bike turn in nicer

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Diddums
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 24 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that was my thinking. Granted I have zero evidence or actual science behind it, but the logic of it being less rotational mass certainly makes sense.

I guess this could just be one of those things that are placebos and repeated by people who think it might actually work, no idea though.

That being said, it could certainly make an interesting study to do at some point (hint hint)!
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 26 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you need is a JT sprockets catalog or you'll probably get the info on the website

look at the centre's of the front and rear and make some notes of the spline on the front sprocket and then the size of the centre hole, stud spacing and diameter on the back sprocket and then compare it to other sprockets in the catalog, if you do find a 525 sprocket with the a same centre etc then you have to match the number of teeth and you're there

I did it on my FZS600, front sprocket matched a street triple/bandit 600 and the rear matched a KTM and XL750, so now run a 525 gold ZVMX chain, JT part numbers front 520 and rear 300
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