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chris50cc
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 17 Dec 2004    Post subject: DNA 50 Acceleration Reply with quote

Hey, i have a DNA 50, its de-restricted with a technigas exhaust and a race variator. However, top speed isn't brilliant, its around 45 ish when its warmed up, but my main concern is the acceleration. Compared to my mates' speedfights is crap! But its pretty slow without comparison anyway, what can i do to improve acceleration?
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 17 Dec 2004    Post subject: Re: DNA 50 Acceleration Reply with quote

chris50cc wrote:
what can i do to improve acceleration?


Get it booked in for a full service, new drive belt, new filters, new plug/plugs, appart from that, its really not worth the effort or money tbh... maybe try some redex...
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 17 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its £75 for a full service and i've only just got it back after paying £230 for a new water pump and a wheel, so i'm skint. Any cheap solutions? What's redex?
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 17 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its £75 for a full service and i've only just got it back after paying £230 for a new water pump and a wheel, so i'm skint. Any cheap solutions? What's redex?
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 17 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redex is a fuel additive, 2strokes are simple beasties and this can make quite a bit of difference to them.. (in fact according to a mate this needed redex in the cyclinder quite often)

The other thing you can do with it is pour it into the cyclinder and it eats away carbon deposits that build up in the cyclinder, shouldn't cost any more than £3...

Other than that looseing weight off the bike will speed acceleration up a bit, not much you can take off a scooter though.. pillion pags... um.. plastics... thats about it..

No offence intended with the "spending money on a 50 is a waste" i didn't want to hear it when i had a 4stroke 125, if you spent £500 on the 50 you would be lucky to get much more out of it, even then it will need allot more attention to stop it going bang, you will NEVER get the money back for mods done

...put up with it for a year, buy an nsr125

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PostPosted: 18:17 - 17 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers... i'll look into the redex idea then, i'll only have it another 6 month then i want something bigger, but not too keen on another 2 stroke, i've been looking at 250 4 strokes perhaps a ZXR - restricted of course, since i wan to do me test when i'm 17!
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 17 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers... i'll look into the redex idea then, i'll only have it another 6 month then i want something bigger, but not too keen on another 2 stroke, i've been looking at 250 4 strokes perhaps a ZXR - restricted of course, since i wan to do me test when i'm 17!
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 17 Dec 2004    Post subject: Re: DNA 50 Acceleration Reply with quote

chris50cc wrote:
Compared to my mates' speedfights is crap! But its pretty slow without comparison anyway, what can i do to improve acceleration?


Is the speedfight a 100, if so, thats why it doesnt compare, it has double the capacity. If not , live with it, and be happy your not on a scooter that goes 31 indicated as his parents are tight (my mate).
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 18 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

DNA's are heavier than Speedfights, although the DNA has the better engine. Redex is for crap old bikes, won't do anything for a new scoot, don't waste your cash on it. Define crap acceleration? Is it bogging, over revving etc. Maybe its jetted a bit rich? Maybe your rollers are a bit heavy?

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PostPosted: 10:57 - 18 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my friend in college has a DNA 50. It is restricted and slow as shit obviously, my Speedfight was a lot faster off line from his. Bit of useless info really, might help though Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 18 Dec 2004    Post subject: Re: DNA 50 Acceleration Reply with quote

chris50cc wrote:
what can i do to improve acceleration?


Im no expert but did you replace your rollers in the variator when you changed your exhaust?

On my speedfight i put a new exhaust on (chrome Cool) but i havent bought lighter rollers yet so my acceleration is piss poor too Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 18 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

they should do 60mph on clock really and the acceleration on my mates was way better than on my speedfight which was tuned so id say theres definatly something that hasnt been done properly to de-restrict it, i know his had a technigas exhaust and new rollers. maybe its the rollers that are causing the speed problems.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 18 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

divuk83 wrote:
DNA's are heavier than Speedfights, although the DNA has the better engine. Redex is for crap old bikes, won't do anything for a new scoot, don't waste your cash on it. Define crap acceleration? Is it bogging, over revving etc. Maybe its jetted a bit rich? Maybe your rollers are a bit heavy?

Dave


Yes! The DNA weighs a tun mate!
Also it has much bigger wheels which make the acceleration slower too...

At the end of the day, If you want speed, wait and get a bigger bike. Ive spend ridiculous ammounts of money to get my speedfight fast. Yeh ok, It will keep up with most Stock 125 scooters, But that aint the point Wink

Save your money mate... Cos there aint much more you can do to speed it up, they aint a quick bike from stock anyway...

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PostPosted: 22:01 - 18 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dna's are a lot faster than speedfights mate, and if it is de-restricted properly will definatly do 55mph my mates did 60mph on the clock,
it is obviusly not fully de-restricted.
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts50x0 wrote:
dna's are a lot faster than speedfights mate, and if it is de-restricted properly will definatly do 55mph my mates did 60mph on the clock,
it is obviusly not fully de-restricted.


Your saying that your mates semi-d'restricted dna50 goes 60mph. Thats bullshit.
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup. DNAs aint alot faster than Speedfight, or any other moped for that matter...
They "Might" Just might push out a few extra mph after about a 1/2 mile of full throttle on the flat... But a DNA definatly does NOT do 60mph...

My speedfight is tuned to the bollocks and I can only "Just" Thrash 57 out of it on the flat (Mind you, Its a rocket up hill Wink must be the torque gearing its got)

Any way, A derestricted speedfight VS a derestricted DNA...

Speedfight will pull away a fair bit quicker as its A) Much Lighter, B) has smaller wheels...

After about 30mph, the DNA will begin to catch up because its A) got bigger wheels meaning higher top end and B) A fair amount more aerodynamic than a scooter with an upright rider...

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PostPosted: 01:34 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts50x0 wrote:
they should do 60mph on clock really and the acceleration on my mates was way better than on my speedfight which was tuned so id say theres definatly something that hasnt been done properly to de-restrict it, i know his had a technigas exhaust and new rollers. maybe its the rollers that are causing the speed problems.


So your saying a Stock DNA could beat your tuned Speedfight... You obviously cannot ride a moped properly then Wink

How "tuned" was ur speedfight?

If it was just a race pipe then your acceleration would of been slower than stock anyway..

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PostPosted: 14:32 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok no.1. i said that the lad who started this topics bike isnt fully de-restricted,
no2. my speedfight had a bigger carb, race pipe and filter,
no.3. its not hard to ride a moped as fast as possible all you have to do is hold the throttle back to the stop. Confused
his dna had race exhaust and new rollers and a de-restricted inlet manifold on the carb, and de-restricted in the variator.
and i never said the dna does 60 just says 60 on the clock, probab;ly about 50, but this topic says his dna does 45mph, probably more like 38mph,
anyway ive got a 125 now so i burn off any 50 and i really dontr care about mopeds theyre gay! i was just trying to help out a little.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts50x0 wrote:
anyway ive got a 125 now so i burn off any 50 and i really dontr care about mopeds theyre gay! i was just trying to help out a little.
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hey stop being so harsh about mopeds, everyone has to start somewhere.

Do you even know what the word moped means??

Quote:
mo·ped ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mpd)
n.
A lightweight motorized bicycle that can be pedaled as well as driven by a low-powered gasoline engine.


So that means that your ts50 and your 125 are moped's, making them gay?

are tzr50, rs50, rs2, rs1 's gay?

you should really think about what your going to write before you post.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 125 is a motorbike,
the dvla says that they are under 49cc's or something.
and ok so technicly mt ts was a moped but i still think iut was a bike cos it had gears and that.
anyway, scooters are gay then
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ookkk..

it would be less offeding if you put 'IMO' at the end of your post.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok mate but i dont even no wot imo means
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 19 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.urbandictionary.com - this shall help you out for all those abbreviations

IMO - in my opinion
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 20 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm what 125 do you have. I doubt it would burn off "Any" 50...

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PostPosted: 15:48 - 20 Dec 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably not but it cost me 500 quid and to get a faster 50 you would need to spend thousands to beat it so whats the point.
and it would blow up evey thousand miles.
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