Traffic calming measures?

[NickD]

Who designs this stuff?

I've just spent a couple of days visiting my Mum, and her street has had the 'traffic calming' treatment. In the past 25 years I can't recall one single accident anywhere near here, but in their wisdom the local authorities have seen fit to make it a 20mph zone, and put the large square speed humps in the middle of each lane.............

Genius!

Now everyone drives down the middle of the fucking road, that's much safer. Nice one Rotherham borough council.



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[Valentino Mossy]

Bit like twyn hill and down by o p chocolates near my sisters place.
Squares and humps all down a big frigging steep hill !
Couple are on bends as well.
Makes it a bloody knightmare on the bike , and irritating in the car !
Nice one merthyr council !
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[Davs101]

lol well unfortunately thats what cars do but its a good thing for bikes because we just go either side of them and go as fast as we like (providing cameras arnt in force)
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[instigator]

I wanna put speed bumps in our road, boy racers pelt down that road like they've just robbed a bank.

Fair enough, no accidents have ever happened but if my dog ran out of the drive onto the road, and a car was going far too fast, by god, I'd kill the driver.

You don't have to wait until an accident happens to slow the traffic down, do you? 20mph is fair doo's but I wouldn't put it along with speed bumps. I'd say, 20mph OR speed bumps. Local residents may have wanted them put up, you never know...

[Ste]

Some good ones near me, they're these rumble strip things just after you go into a 30 zone. Make quite a loud noise in the car as you go over them, but the faster you go the less noise they make. Someone has really thought about and tested those.

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Problem is, if you have a 20 limit with no other traffic calming measures, car drivers don't stick to the 20mph.

They don't care, and some of us wouldn't either, I guess.

I don't mind bumps if they are in a decent place. Hardly anyone sticks to 30s let alone 20s. I try my best to. Not saying I don't speed, just try not to in 30s.

[Kickstart]

Hi

20mph speed limits can only be installed in either a zone or if there is traffic calming in place.

I would doubt that you really do want traffic calming, but the councils are financially encouraged to install such schemes by central government. The methods they sometimes use to justify these schemes can be quite dodgy.

A few tricks are:-
If someone says they see no need for calming and thus does not say they do not want calming then they are regarded as not being against it being installed!
Measuring the before and after speeds of the traffic in the area are different times of day at different times of yeat to bias the figures.
Playing with the injury stats to make the case look impressive.

Locally one was put in due to peoples requests. Funny how this same group was ignored when petitions amounting to 1200 signitures were handed in asking for them to be removed.

Personally too many schemes are put in "just in case". If there were a justification for them then there would be accidents caused by excessive speed for the conditions. Unless there is a definate benefit why should ambulances be slowed down (resulting in up to 800 extra cardiac arrest deaths per minute of increased response time in London alone), those with bad back be put in extreme pain, people vehicles damaged, noise levels increased, pollution levels increased, dazzling of people going the other way (headlights flash ove the bumps) and in nasty cases damage to surrounding buildings from heavy vehicles going over the humps.

All the best

Keith
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[stinkwheel]

Yep, as Kieth says, you can't (legally) have a 20mph limit without traffic calming furniture within a certain distance of all parts of the 20 limit. There are a lot of illegal 20mph limits.

If you have loads of speed bumps nearby, get a supermoto/trailie and have some fun. I cannot ride past a speedhump without seeing how much air I can get off the top of it. Everyone should do this, then when the busybodies see that people are having fun on speedhumps, there will be a campaign to have them banned.
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[Dan 4RR]

Hi,

The town were I live is only small, maybe about 5 mile in area. There is one huge road roughly two mile long that runs through the centre. Before 2003 people used to literally drive down this road at speeds of 60-80mph without giving a second thought about people crossing over it and other such things.

People started to complain to the local council about it and the council reacted about it by building 3 speed bumps next to each other every 30 yards or so , then every 50 yards a large speed bump that covers the whole width of the road. Since then people have driven through the town a lot slower. So it has improved, but now people are complaining about the speed bumps themselves.

Personally I hate them , but there easy to avoid on my scooter or any motorcycle.

[cunni]

[Bendy]

Aren't the square bumps designed so that slightly wider vehicles like ambulances can drive straight over them, the bump fitting in the space between the wheels?

Someone told me that once anyway.

[Kickstart]

[Korn]

There's a particluarly nasty set of those square speedhumps quite near to me, on an unlit road running between two fields! The humps are placed every 50m or so and are built so bloody high that almost all cars ground on them, so the only choice is to drive down the middle of the two lanes between the humps - then pull in and give way to anybody from the other side doing the same, and so on.
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[jay12329]

Sounds like the speed bump we got not so long ago at work. Its a very harsh bump but it was only installe across one lane. So you jsut move on to the wrong side of the road and belt round it as fast as possible, causing a greater danger.
So they extended the bumb across the whole road, great idea, now we have people belting as fast as they like through the petrol station to avoid the bump.
Muppets the lot of them.
J