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mr.z
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Cars on a bike licence? Reply with quote

Life is funny sometimes, dispite my mum being a driveing instructor for years i never got arround to doing my test, i did however go out of my way spending allot of money doing my DAS because i couldn't see the point of haveing a licence and no car...

I'll do it at some point but...

I remember reading that some cars under a certain weight can be driven on a motorcycle licence, has anyone got any experiance of these? ive seen ones that are in current production but they are outrageously overpriced and just plain pants...

There is a fiat 500 being sold up the road, seems like the sort of car that would come into this catagory, it would be interesting little car with a 1000cc 4cylinder lump in it Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only car I ever heard of being driven on a bike licence is a Three wheeler like the robin reliant.

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PostPosted: 14:37 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been done a few times, look on your licence.

If you have category B1 you can drive a car under a certain weight (like 500kg I think). You will have this if you passed your bike test on or before around 1999.

If you do not have B1 on your licence, you cannot drive a car.

You CANNOT drive a car under category A.

Simple. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK you can drive a car that doesn't have reverse?
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh i do remember now there being something meaning the licence needs to be before a certain date, i gor mine last year.. bugger... never mind..

I guess i will have to do the stupid car licence then, i still do fancy something small and stupid for a car though, as impractical as possible , with two seats and no boot, cba giveing lifts to everyone all the time Razz

Thanks for clarifying though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple - find out what category the vehicle is. If it's not on your licence, you can't drive/ride it.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the choice is simple,do you go for a dodgy little three wheel Reliant or one of those bike engined little beasties like a megablade,hmmmm let me think Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Re: Cars on a bike licence? Reply with quote

zero wrote:
, dispite my mum being a driveing instructor for years
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Er.......Ask your mum Wink
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Re: Cars on a bike licence? Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
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She hasn't got a bike licence tho Razz

I've seen gsxr1000 engined smart cars, a bit nutty....

What would be involved in converting a small car to a bike engined car? something with a hydraulic clutch? worth the effort? (when i say small i mean like the fiat 500 sort of small...)

Something i wouldn't mind doing, would do allright for summer, or maybe something like geting a metro and turning it into a dune buggy Razz
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm am fairly sure that she will know the laws about the licenses for cars, which is what she teaches in.

A car with a bike engine in it is still classed as a car, the engine size or what it was made for doesn't change anything else about the fact it is still a car.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
A car with a bike engine in it is still classed as a car, the engine size or what it was made for doesn't change anything else about the fact it is still a car.


Yeh theres no way i'll be on any more than 2 wheels with this licence i realise..

Driveing instructors don't really get let in on law changes, she had heared of it but was unsure of the details (as it changed recently) either way just because i could drive it technicaly there no frickin way i'd get insured on one so it would be a pointless excersie...

like you can ride a trike on a provisional licence, you could have a 3 liter engine in if you felt like it, you can also ride without supervision, in fact you cannot carry a passenger (which is why) it can't have a back seat and must be displaying L plates... i'm told there is only 1 insureance company who will even consider giveing you insureance on one though! So like the car thing it would be a bit pointless Sad ...
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you had a look on the DSA website, and DVLA one?
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

A car that can be driven on a bike licence is an Aixam 500. 500cc petrol and diesel engines which will do about 60mph flat out and the diesel gives about 70mpg. About £6-7000 new though
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, if you want to drive a car it would be more sensible to take driving lessons and pass your test, then get a car which is actually a proper car, not one which is a car but allowed to be driven with a bike license because it has three wheels or other such technicalities.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
To be fair, if you want to drive a car it would be more sensible to take driving lessons and pass your test, then get a car which is actually a proper car...


Yes thats probably what will happen, i might have gotten away with it if i had done my test years ago, given up on the idea now.. Ive been driveing since i was 17, only my mum needs to be in the car at the time, just never bothered doing the test is all.. i couldn't afford to run a car and bike...

Sounds mad but i can do the test anytime, free lessons whenever i feel like it, i could (not meaning to sound big headed) go and do the test now with no problems...

Anyways i got a bike, sometime in the future i will be able to afford to run a small car, which will be good for winter, anything with 4 wheels.



Mrchips - yep thats what i ment about the stupidly priced ones, second hand they are stll £2500! which is an utter joke! my cousin just sold an Nreg 2liter turbo diesel for £500! i was almost given a mini.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It used to be the old 3 wheelers were all that you could "drive" on a bike licence. The law has been relaxed to bring it more into line with Europe to allow you to drive the light weight cars (think they are classed as "Quadricycle" or somthing like that).

Fairly certain a Fiat 500 would be well over the maximun weight and power.

From an Aixam web site:-

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§ Can I drive an Aixam vehicle with a motorcycle licence?
The authorities introduced new legislation in March 2001 as regards the driving of quadricycles. A person who has passed the the full motorcycle test before 01 March 2001 has automatic entitlement to drive a quadricycle, however, any person taking a full motorcycle test after this date is not entitled to drive an Aixam on a motorcycle licence.

§ What is the maximum speed of the cars?
The maximum speed of the Aixam 400 is 50 m.p.h, the Aixam 500 has a maximum speed of 55 m.p.h and for the Mac500 it is 60 m.p.h.


All the best

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PostPosted: 21:38 - 16 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get your car licence. Then you can drive a car.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 13 Feb 2005    Post subject: Who had the guts to drive an Aixam of Macc in the UK? Reply with quote

In Germany these types of quadricycles are allowed to drive at maximum speed of 45 km/h, or 30 m.p.h. They conducted a crash test: a frontal collision between a (very small) Renault Twingo and a quadricycle (JDM Albizia), both cars driving 25 m.p.h. As you can see the results of this frontal crash were dramatic for the quadricycle:
https://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests/gkgk/default.asp?ComponentID=101479&SourcePageID=8645%230

Don’t you agree it would be plain suicide to drive this kind of car by a maximum speed up to 60 m.p.h. in the UK?

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PostPosted: 14:58 - 13 Feb 2005    Post subject: Re: Who had the guts to drive an Aixam of Macc in the UK? Reply with quote

paul1977 wrote:
Don’t you agree it would be plain suicide to drive this kind of car by a maximum speed up to 60 m.p.h. in the UK?


Not really. The idea is not to crash in the first place.

Flying is commonly believed to be the safest form of transport, yet I hate to think of what the result would be of 2 747s going into each other while both doing 25mph even on the ground.

All the best

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