More things to delay London roads

[Kickstart]

Hi

Seems Ken has decided that a tram is a good idea, and to hell with the people living there.

https://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/londonnews/articles/16960210?version=1

[Annabella]

\o/


Something for cyclists to get their wheels stuck in, and a nice extra large, unstoppable object to hit cars
Excellent idea, trams really eased the congestion between Wolverhampton and Birmingham a treat....
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[ooby]

Trams have been in the Australian City of Melbourne for a very long time and don't cause too many problems for motorists

[tokarev]

[Annabella]

Do they use the existing roads to run the trams along though?


We have trams barging cars off the road here in the Black Country - it's all quite entertaining provided it isn't your car
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Hi

I have ridden round Melbourne, and the trams certainly do screw up the road network.

When they are wet the tracks are lethal to bikes.

The trams don't stop for anything (not really got the brakes to anyway).

And hook turns are a nightmare.

All the best

Keith
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[ooby]

I'm sure the addition of trams onto the roads can only make riding on the roads harder - what Keith says is true that the Trams own the roads. But on the other hand at least they make riding more interesting

[mchaggis]

I've not had a lot of experience riding/ driving in Sheffield, but the Supertram really is good for commuting. Park and ride, cheaper than driving in.
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[Bendy]

Where is it going to go?

With the existing bus lanes each side, most of Uxbridge Road has only got room for one lane each way. It gets incredibly congested as it is (while the bus lanes sit empty of course).

Not to mention the inevitable year or more of roadworks.

[natv4]

We already have a south london tram, but this only really crosses roads (maybe 5% of the lines use roads which are open to cars). If it was like this then I really couldn't complain, the tram is useful for cutting accross london. But if large parts share the roads with vehicles, then I would think accident rates would increase and I would not be so impressed.
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[Tarmacsurfer]

I remember the first time I went to Manchester.
Rode around a corner, and my first thought was "Jesus this place is rough, look how heavily armoured the busses are!".
Then I noticed the tracks
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[mattsmith95]

Croydon has had a tram system for some years now and it's doing
very well.

The only problem was after it had been completed and the trams
were undergoing testing. Some drivers would crash into them on
purpose to prevent the trams ever running. These drivers were
delt with and one driver lost his licence over a crash.

I think it's a great idea bring back trams to London, only downside
is the construction. The Croydon system was easy because it used
existing railways in some places. The proposed system maybe from
scratch.

I don't think it will ever happen personally, the cross london link has
not been built yet.

[Robby]

Whats wrong with the tube, buses, and taxis?

Anywhere you go in central you're near a tube station or two, bus stops are everywhere. Both networks run tolerably well, although buses are slowed down a lot by roadworks and they feel the need to shut most of the tube network down at weekends.

Trams. All the disadvantages of both.

[natv4]