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PostPosted: 19:48 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Wheelie Trouble Reply with quote

With a cbr600f4i. I do a power wheelie but I can't hold the bike for a long time, I just keep it up untill the rev gets to around 13k and then I get it down. I would change to a higher gear but I don't know how to do clutchless shifting properly! I'm wondering what would happen if I changed into 2nd gear like I would normally do? Would the bike go higher or lower? Or is clutchless shifting the only way for wheelies? Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

clutchless shifting is the only way to change gear when you're on one wheel. Whip the clutch in when doing a wheelie and you're taking all power from the back wheel away and you'll come back down to earth quickly. Do that from a decent height and its good bye fork seals. Shocked

Try a google for clutchless shifting or wait about here for a proper post to come up.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a 600f4i? you lucky c**t... that will be my next bike Twisted Evil Can I have yours please???!?! Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yams wrote:
You have a 600f4i? you lucky c**t... that will be my next bike Twisted Evil Can I have yours please???!?! Laughing


Sad Nope I don't but I rent it a few times a month... Twisted Evil But I'm getting the 2005 gixxer in a few weeks!
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the topic of wheelies- i can do proper ones on my gs now! Laughing Laughing
they may not be long-but it still comes up at a proper height.im well chuffed(and the fact that when i frazzle my clutch, it will only cost £8 to replace! Very Happy Thumbs Up )
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they may not be long-but it still comes up at a proper height.


Are you sure you aren't talking about your penis Laughing Twisted Evil !
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jammy cunt, ive only got the lowly 1996 F3 FT Crying or Very sad

Bastid wont power wheely one up.

Any ideas how to remedy that? Im afraid the git aint making full power, but the only things i can think of, is one of the rubber seals at the carb is loose or theres other bits missing from restriction (cdi, jets etc). Anyone got any tips?

As for clutchless, easiest way to do it is to rest your foot under the pedal and push upwards with a little bit of force. Then when you back off the throttle it should slap straight in.

I can do it fine on two wheels, but on the one. Well ive apparently done it but i dont believe em.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Jammy cunt, ive only got the lowly 1996 F3 FT Crying or Very sad

Bastid wont power wheely one up.



My hornet now powerwheelies in 2nd downgeared Twisted Evil , and its 10~ bhp down on your cbr.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr Nick wrote:
bonny_ricardo wrote:
Jammy cunt, ive only got the lowly 1996 F3 FT Crying or Very sad

Bastid wont power wheely one up.



My hornet now powerwheelies in 2nd downgeared Twisted Evil , and its 10~ bhp down on your cbr.


Oh dont worry when its time for C+S Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

But i imagine it powerwheelied in first before you downgeared it?

Oh and only thing i like about it in this current gearing is... You can trundle along in first at 40, abit noisily (and guzzily but hell) and then whack it on the back tyre. At 40. Cant be shabby.

Do love cagers looks when you crack a wheelie out of a speed camera zone. Try it sometime, any 40mph limit is usually pretty straight. Just crack the front up on the clutch just after the last line. Beautiful Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:

Oh dont worry when its time for C+S Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

But i imagine it powerwheelied in first before you downgeared it?

Oh and only thing i like about it in this current gearing is... You can trundle along in first at 40, abit noisily (and guzzily but hell) and then whack it on the back tyre. At 40. Cant be shabby.

Do love cagers looks when you crack a wheelie out of a speed camera zone. Try it sometime, any 40mph limit is usually pretty straight. Just crack the front up on the clutch just after the last line. Beautiful Mr. Green


Mine now powerwheelies at 6k revs 40~ mph in 2nd, all the way up to limiter in 2nd, and a few times have got it into 3rd and held it for a bit, usually have to put it down for a corner or if im weaving all over the place. Used to have to chop the throttle in 1st on standard gearing for it to come up, then go straight back down as i hit the limiter, now its downgeared it comes up really smoothly in 2nd rather than jolty and horrible in 1st. But in 2nd i dont have enough power to flip it and the power comes in a lot more smooth so think its less likely to flip in 2nd. Would deffo reccomend downgeared, i also waited for Chain and sprockets to be knackered, but i wouldnt wait too long, my old chain took half the engine with it when it snapped Crying or Very sad . Standard gearing on the hornet is 15/42 so i went 14/45 equiivilent of 2 down on the front, not sure if its the same for the CBR
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fire_Eyes wrote:
8316 wrote:
they may not be long-but it still comes up at a proper height.


Are you sure you aren't talking about your penis Laughing Twisted Evil !

i knew someone had to be twisted! Neutral
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yesterday i seen a dude pull a wheelie with his gal on the back any 1 able to wheelie with a pillion on?
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My RR power wheelies easier with someone on the back. The way it's weight is distributed makes it hard to power wheelie, which is good for fast starts.

Down gearing you bike is one solution, or you could bounce it up, or try getting in first and coming off the throttle and then cracking it open again - similar effect to bouncing it up.

There is more than one way to skin a cat Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liverpoolrobbie wrote:
yesterday i seen a dude pull a wheelie with his gal on the back any 1 able to wheelie with a pillion on?


The front always comes up easier with someone on the back. Weight distribution.

Its just not as controlled.

Still... Good for scaring em tho.

All i have to do to get the 'oh mommy' reflex out of one of my mates now is to dip the clutch and fan the revs. Whether or not i wheelie hes worked out that usually precedes one Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've never riden a bigger bike that a 125 but when your learning a wheelie on a big bike dont you lot ever get really scared?
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liverpoolrobbie wrote:
yesterday i seen a dude pull a wheelie with his gal on the back any 1 able to wheelie with a pillion on?


I know someone with a Thundercat who wheelies with his girlfriend on the back. She can't get enough of it Laughing Personally i don't know how she holds on.

My wheelies are getting better, can get to the balance point on the limited amount of power but i can't keep it smooth and i'm all over the place.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liverpoolrobbie wrote:
i've never riden a bigger bike that a 125 but when your learning a wheelie on a big bike dont you lot ever get really scared?


I don't know about the rest but I got used to it. I first started with clutch wheelies on my zzr400, and then on the cbr600. It's just like most things on a bike, once you get used to it you don't get scared anymore. For example, before riding I used to say I never want to go over 100mph.... now I always go over 100mph on motorways.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know about the rest but I got used to it. I first started with clutch wheelies on my zzr400, and then on the cbr600. It's just like most things on a bike, once you get used to it you don't get scared anymore. For example, before riding I used to say I never want to go over 100mph.... now I always go over 100mph on motorways.


Agreed.

Gets abit worrying tho dont it? I used to bullshit about doing all the things i have done now and feel completely comfortable doing.

I mean on saturday (bearing in mind i am a good restrained rider these days but the dreaded suzuki curse had struck again, and i had to get a decent 10 minutes on the bike) i ended up racing a scooby impretza on the local dually. Was very surreal, anyway at about 120-130 ish, just after id overtaken him and was planning on overtaking this hatchback infront, someone had broken down in the left, and this hatchback decided to move to the right VERY early. Saw the indi's in good time, and since i was on the white line and only a bit infront of the scooby, only option i had was to undertake around him... at about 120 ish.... with about 2 foot between car and curb.

Anyhew my point was, i absolutely felt no fear whatsoever from doing that. Whereas i guarantee had i had a pillion on the back at the time.... Surprised well i might have had to clean the seat.

You just get used to it.

Also as a point, im happier wheelying at 40-60 ish, then 20. I dont like to much power. Slower you are going, the more power you can put down.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 05 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still cant wheelie Embarassed
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 05 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I still cant wheelie Embarassed


Same here, only done one once, by mistake, because of fat bastard pillion.

but its a Cb500, not exactly renowned for its wheeleing potential.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 05 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you guys shouldn't learn to wheelie. Because once you start you can' stop Twisted Evil .
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 05 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fire_Eyes wrote:
I think you guys shouldn't learn to wheelie. Because once you start you can' stop Twisted Evil .


I went through a chain and sprocket set in a week.. and I'm relatively smooth... just practice, too much Embarassed (admittedly chain was already fucked before I started Laughing now it's uber-fucked Mr. Green)

Going up to ride with some of the Vertical Brits once I got myself a car and trailer, they have an airfeild/runway thing up north that they go to play on!!!
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 05 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah Yams... you always find someting to ruin your bike with. First you crash it, then you drop a tv over it, and now you messed the chain up Thumbs Up .

You know whenever I get on this forum I feel like going to the UK. You guys have lots of things to do with your bikes, lots of rideouts, trackdays etc..
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 05 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Jammy c**t,


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PostPosted: 15:00 - 05 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only accidently wheelied when I came over a bridge, put the power on to quick and got the front up, put it back down straight away. Haven't had the balls to actually try one yet. Embarassed
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