why is this happenin??

[houlsby]

hi, bought an rs125 in september, 04 plate 5,700 km on the clock. since then i have had to have a full rebuild due to the big end going and the other common things at 10,000 km. but why owe why have i had to have it back there 2wice after that, and just now the engine seised and almost high sided going round a corner! what should i do? im thinkin of going, sitting down and demanding a new bike but i dont think it will work, what are my rights? what legal action can i take? cheers houlsby.

[lilredmachine]

With engine q's can you be more specific, such as what oil you are using? how long after the work was done did it seize up? Etc.
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[houlsby]

its 2 months since i had the build, i use putoline ttx which the guy at the shop told me to use, the shop is hillsbourgh motorcycles in sheffield, its now done 13k km not thrashed (even tho i am a learner i take it steady) its always looked after (my dad is a mechanical and electrical engineer) cheers houlsby.

[Reevo8]

As said, what oil did you use etc will be needed to make a guess.

Since it has only occurred after the work had been done, maybe you could claim that it was fitted with a faulty part. However if you have been ragging the bike, and generally neglecting it then that may just be the problem.

We have all been there, with little money spare after petrol, I used to fill up my speedfight with cheapo oil. This is often the problem with 2 stroke 125s, as more often than not they are owned by less knowledgable folks.

Not accusing you of being unknowledgable, just pointing out some facts.

Sorry to hear about the bike also.
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[Pat172]

pitty tho as the RS is notorious for going BANG
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[Reevo8]

oops, he had already replied. Houlsby apologies, my reply was sposed to follow lilredmachine.
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[houlsby]

ok. anyone got any ideas? its really fucking me off now (was sposed to be going up to g/f on her break) and got my first proper job interview at posh hotel!!!!!! (im a chef)

[Hex]

Is it been run in properly after the rebuilds?
Is the oil mix not right?
Is it running lean?
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[houlsby]

it was run in for 1.5 th km's at under 6k revs. dont know how to check bout the oil mix and lean or rich ect.

[Pat172]

are u using the right plug etc
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[houlsby]

im using the one that the guy fitted at the shop. like i said at the top, is there anyway i can demand a new bike or my money back?

[Hex]

Seriously doubt you have any way of getting a new bike or your money back.

You've had the bike nearly 8 months, done 5000 km etc.

I would say you have your mixture wrong somewhere and its running lean on the oil and as such not lubricating it and thus the problems.
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[Pat172]

i doubt it as they'll just say that u havnt been riding it correctly.... unless u can find somiething that hasnt been fitted correctly which is very doubtful
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[paulyzf600]

So long as you have done everything by the book and got the oil mixtures right etc and if they recommended the oil you use then I'd go back and point o9ut that it should not be happening. I'd expect the bike to run further than that if not then they shold'nt be on the open market as thas crap!
Go have aword with them! then if that gets you know where go to the citizen advice!
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[Frost]

Well oil doesnt look to be the problem. you should really have run it on premix whilst running it in, but it still shouldnt have gone after only 3000km.

You say that the big end went on it, and that they fixed that during the service. but did they actually touch the top end?
It's possible that they just fixed the big end and left everything else so the engine has actually done 13000km in which case, it seizing isnt supprising.

Are you warming your bike up properly (getting to about 55 degrees) before riding?

It is possible for 2 strokes to just inexplicably let go, allthough it is rare.

Just take it to a different garage this time. so long as the barrel isnt mashed a top end rebuild won't wost you much.

[houlsby]

what im saying is tho i shouldnt have to pay anything as the guy told me he put a new barrel, piston and all the bits that go to make the top and bottom end because he ordered everything he could, also i shouldnt have to do emergency stops at 70mph going round a bend should i? think ill take it to the other prilia dealer and see what they say.

[lilredmachine]

That will probably be a good idea, despite possible expense, they will be able to see if it is on the right mixture, rebuilt properly etc. I've rebuilt my moped twice now because of oil problems.
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[Kris]

You bought an RS125 and wonder why you're having problems?



Seriously, get it rebuilt then sell it. Then get yourself a cheap four stroke / take your test etc. These RS125's are temperamental beasties, you either get a good one or a complete money pit.
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[houlsby]

i gathered. at least i know a bit bout how bikes work now tho!!! im goin to sell the bike defo, been looking at a car but i think ill just have the freelander till i done my bike test or the new clio my mam is gettin all my mates are passin their car test now so i might asd well join the crew init

[tony532]

oil pump might have failed

airlock in it


shouldnt have seized on you that quickly though


you can argue that an rs125 given the best oil and warmed up before setting off will be reliable

but i hear a lot of stories lately of them randomly nipping up rings


i owned one for a year by the way



i would get it fixed and sell it and buy a 4t 125 for commuting to the hotel on e.t.c


i know 4t's can seize up but rs125's seem to do it at random


best of luck with the bugger

[houlsby]

how much would i be able to pick up a gilera runner 125 for? and how much do you all think i will lose by selling the rs and buying a scooter for commuting? cheers kieran.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Could be caused by numerous things.

Running lean, from blocked jets, blocked fuel breather, blocked fuel filter.

Not enough oil, such as the pump failing, oil pipe coming off, air bubble in the oil pipe, run out of oil

Over heating from insufficient coolant, stuck thermostat, too much anti freeze in the coolant, too hot a spark plug.

Cold seizure, basically from thrashing it when cold.

Etc

All the best

Keith
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[natv4]

Sorry to hear of your problems, I'm another voting for get a 125 4t. Ask Alliamc. She has had much the same as you (in reverse order though). Top end seized, then after that was repaired, 300Km later the bottom end has gone.

It does seem very hit and miss as to whether you get a good one.
Good Luck! Hope it works out for the best.
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[Wave2k]

only use TTS in rs125s
Never used untill warmed up 10-15 mins
They blow up alot, the beauty of 2-stroke
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