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PostPosted: 14:09 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Winding the odometer back? Reply with quote

Hi folks,

Following on from my thread about crashing the SZR660, Ive just been out picking up the new parts for the bike.

Everything is in order however the new clocks Ive bought read 19,000 miles Shocked My broken clocks only read 11,000.

Does anybody know how to wind the miles back? Im going to pop my old ones open and see if I can figure it out but any guidance would be appreciated.

Its a Yamaha SZR660, the odometer is in the speedo, front wheel driven.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you can wind them back. Maybe you could fit a powerdrill to it and wind it forward past 0, then back to 11,000.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same problem in my car and the odometre actually came out seperate and I swapped them over not sure what it's like on bikes.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant wind them back as they work on a ratchet system, but you can wind them past 0 and back to 11,000 miles easily, just takes a while even with a powerdrill.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes you can wind them back, take the face plate off and with a small screw driver move the dials up and down.


works but is ilegal
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatters wrote:
yes you can wind them back, take the face plate off and with a small screw driver move the dials up and down.


works but is ilegal


If you do that be careful you don't scratch the numbers as that is one of the obvious signs of tampered clocks.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

altering clocks is a massive no no, best inform the DVLA of the clock change, would probably save loads of problems.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whos gonna ever know? mate of mine took his clocks back from 13000kms to 2000kms, sold it for a lot more, no-one ever knew.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc_Buck wrote:
Whos gonna ever know? mate of mine took his clocks back from 13000kms to 2000kms, sold it for a lot more, no-one ever knew.


Aye, hate to say it but your mate is a c**t.

Agree with using the powerdrill and taking it past 0 though.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instigator, i agree with you, i didnt say it was right.

Was just stating that its easy to get away with.

I do not reccommend it.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jammy-G wrote:
Marc_Buck wrote:
Whos gonna ever know? mate of mine took his clocks back from 13000kms to 2000kms, sold it for a lot more, no-one ever knew.


I'd never do that, MOT certs, V5 etc, all recorded.


do they? i did a HPI check and it didnt kno the last recorded mileage
till i put it in, when i sorned one of my bikes i had the option to fill in the mileage, which i did

the new MOT's have to be logged i think dont think the old ones do
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I put my battery powered drill onto the speedo it read 40mph.

Thats a 2,000rpm drill so by my calculations with a dremel at 38,000rpm (450mph) to cover 99,999 miles will take 8 days of continuous uninterrupted drilling to reach this amount. The dremel would break down and burn up before then!

Is this really practical? :S

I had a fiddle with my old clocks and it is indeed possible to wind the numbers back with a knife blade but getting the face off the clock is not possible without breaking it as far as I can see.

Perhaps someone will inform me that my calculations r.e. the dremel are incorrect? Hope so.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. incase anybody knows a solution, the faceplate (glass) of the clocks is held in place by a black plastic ring which is glued onto the clocks.

My old clocks this was smashed off in the crash, as far as I can see it would not be possible to remove it without breaking it on my new clocks.

Unless someone knows a way?
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scooter ones can be wound back using a power drill, maybe yours cannot.

I don't some how see its possible to do it, 8 hours flat, thats 210 hours or something, 210 hours at 1 hour a day is like 8 months at an hour a day, and besides would a drill be able to do it for an hour without blowing? i don't think you could do it.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably easier to just buy a cheap bike speedo unit(or gps), rig that up, take off the throttle cable and work with that until you've covered a further 8000 miles!!

But yes, from your calculations, it would take 8-9 days. Laughing Sad
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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altering clocks is a massive no no, best inform the DVLA of the clock change, would probably save loads of problems.


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Whos gonna ever know? mate of mine took his clocks back from 13000kms to 2000kms, sold it for a lot more, no-one ever knew.


I sort of agree here, but surely it wouldnt be a problem if you altered a new/spare clock to indicate the same milage as the old one, ie not trying to lie about it for whatever reason.

I do not get the fasination with milage either when it comes to selling bikes. I care more about the condition of the bike. My dads mate got a BMW R60 with 'high' milage on it of 80,000. Thing is, being a BMW it will got for another 80,000 without much more than oil and tyre changes!! Milage has never bothered me at all.
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PostPosted: 03:01 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my old speedfight, it has shitty clocks on it which didnt work on a ratchet system. I attached a drill to the speedo drive and brought it back 5k Miles. Cool

Like everybody says, Check to see if you can swap them over. If not, Take them apart and knock the numbers round.

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PostPosted: 07:36 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be able to buy the odometer component fairly cheaply.

I think the people who clock their vehicles before selling them are cnuts. Its funny how we are all bikers, on 2 wheels, friendly and so on....until money comes into it. Then we'll happily screw our granny for a fiver. (hopefully this does not apply to any of you)
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you just take a picture of the old clocks and new clocks together, then get a reputable bike dealer to write you a letter saying that the original milage is genuine. When you come to sell the bike you can produce the paperwork.

Of course this then shows that you crashed your bike which would probably but the buyer off more!

Or keep looking for SH clocks with a similar milage and then swap them again and sell the 19,000 mile ones.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could remove the speedo cable for long journeys. I know what speed I'm doing when in top gear just by the revs.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about using the 19k clocks for the moment, keeping a note of the millage you are doing, and replace them with a set of clocks with the correct millage on when you see some which are the same as the millage you bike has actually done?
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 18 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

tintin wrote:
Why don't you just take a picture of the old clocks and new clocks together........


Thats what i've done with mine. My odometer packed up so i got some new ones off ebay. They read 5k down on my last ones and i've got my old ones to prove it wasn't crashed.

Of course, i could not tell the next person who buys it and remove 20% of fthe milage, but i'm honest.

In fact.. This makes me think. My recorded milagae on the MOT slips is going to show a downturn for a year..
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