slow speed crashes vs high speed crashes

[gimpy limp]

high speed crashes you generally come off then slide to safety and hope you don't go into oncoming traffic of or a curb but slow speed (as in 30mph) you get mangled up in the bike and go where the bike goes often under it.

who's had crashes at both speeds? how did you come off (injury wise)?

this is low speed (30mph) crash:
Ankle xray
https://img83.echo.cx/img83/9149/ankle10vc.jpg
Elbow xray
https://img248.echo.cx/img248/7853/elbow27cz.jpg
elbow after surgery:
https://img248.echo.cx/img248/5079/elbow12rd.jpg

this is what he was wearing on that 30mph crash:
"2-piece Alpinestars leathers, full-face lid and Sidi Vertebrae boots.
Also severed an artery in his arm and nearly bled to death."

manhole covers caused that crash btw so no-one to blame except for the road condition.

Kind of a warning for you to wear the proper leathers and helmet
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[cc123]

Kinda of a stupid question I thought till I seen the pics...


Sure it wasn't 130mph!!??!

What the hell did you hit?
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[Black Knight]

Nice

[gimpy limp]

nah it's not me someone else, thats exactly what I thought you assume high speed crashes are more damaging, it was a curb he hit iirc (it says somewhere in their what he hit)

read here what he hit and how:

https://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=190506&page=2&pp=25&highlight=ankle+boots
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[gimpy limp]

btw a friend of mine came out of a car windscreen with his missus recently at 75mph, he almost lost his leg but only because it got trapped in the steering wheel, his missus was fine if you dont count the cuts and minor broken bones. But they kind of slid to safety and thats without leathers.

I notice people are voting high speed but think about that for a second
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[cc123]

It's an unlucky case. I fell off somewhere between 30 and 40 but managed to hold on all the way down till I was right at the road then let go (can't remember this but wishaykillie behind me said I was still on till I was at road level). Bounced a bit and landed in the ditch!

The guy was really unlucky actually.
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[RickHolt]

[gimpy limp]

i've come off a pedal bike at 35mph when i was a kid (I can remember looking at the speedo before coming off going down a reeeally steep hill), was kinda funny my handlebars just come off in my hands and I remember holding them up thinknig wtf for a few seconds before i went over the top (lose bolt) all I ended up up with was cuts. I think if you ever come off at low speed if you make sure you don't go with the bike, maybe even chuck yourself away from the bike if you know your coming off you'll be fine.

that crash was from being taken along with the bike.
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[RickHolt]

[mchaggis]

I had typed up a nice response to say that high speed crashes are obviously more dangerous, just less common, but IE crashed and lost it.

I've not crashed at speed, but of the four times I have binned it/ fallen off/ something, only one of them has given me any injuries, and that was (probably - I know nothing about it) sub 30 mph.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=5453
Broken wrist - very swollen.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=5452
Fractured top end of radius too, not displaced though.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=8777
The wrist after surgery and about 3 months healing.

Add severe concussion and unconciousness to those and it was reasonably nasty, though entirely my own fault and could have been worse. Having binned it twice, all I got from those was a scuffed boot and a sore hip, being stuck under the bike on the ground almost before I'd even fallen over.
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[Motkram]

Can't vote because it isn't quite as definitive as the two options.
You can get seriously or indeed fatally injured at just about any speed, just the same as you can get away without a scratch. There are loads of factors, road furniture, other vehicles etc etc

You are more likely to get dead on rural left handers than right, any guesses why? One pence to the first correct answer.
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[mchaggis]

Sliding into tractors coming round the blind bend.
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[Aikman666]

you tend to find that both will have the same effect, if you come off at high speeds you just slide along till you slow down, then when ure leathers get a grip of the ground you'll probably start doing damage to yourself. Slow speed crashes are the same, except you dont slide first. Out of the offs ive had i'd have to say high speed is the best, simply because i got my leg trapped under my bike at slow speeds and at high speeds i got chucked clear of it. It all depends on the situation
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[Motkram]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Suspect that at high speed you are just as likely to stay tangled up with the bike (after all it is travelling at the same speed in the same direction as you). Just that at high speed you are sliding for longer so have more chance to hit things.

All the best

Keith
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[mchaggis]

[gimpy limp]

[RickHolt]

[gimpy limp]

sit their and fall with the bike if you want, if you can push away and get an inch that could be the difference between losing your leg or not. you may get a foot away from the bike, an inch, 2 foot or nothing but you don't sit and topple over with the bike. Bit hard on a corner when your already half way to the ground obviously. Don't see the confusion?
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[mchaggis]

[RickHolt]

It's not that I'm confused, I can see what you mean. I just know it's no where near as simple as you make it sound. I'm not that experience in falling off, only done it once properly and crashed once.

When you fall off, you're leaning already to go around a corner, and all of a sudden the bike just goes. That's what happened with me anyway. When it goes it's like one second you're riding a bike, the next second you're crashing towards the floor with nothing underneath you. There's no time to jump off or anything like that.

Maybe someone with more experience can say what they think.

[gimpy limp]

not saying anything other than you do it and hope, i'm not saying you leap off do a star jump then land and roll and all is fine, you just do it. lol pushing away whilst your falling and making a conscious effort to do it or moving out of the way might be a better phrase than pushing is not the same as leaping off your bike or as you said 'jump off'. exhausted shoosh now lol
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[RickHolt]

lol yea that's what I thought you meant, just push away. But even that is asking alot. You really don't get chance to do anything. You just hope for the best. Once you're on the floor you could probably roll into a position that's best for you depending on the kit you're wearing. Other than that I'd say it's mostly down to luck. Guess we've flogged this to death lol.

[Tarmacsurfer]

[mchaggis]

I did just have a thought... Both times I binned it, it was due to instinctive use of the front brake whilst leant over, once on a wet roundabout and once on gravel (I know it was stupid, but I'd only been riding for about a fortnight in total.. ) Do you get much more time if you lose the rear instead? Or will losing the rear just too often mean you're about to be flipped off into the scenery?
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