anybody had a go on a tl1000s

[epz]

ive been thinking on upgradeing my sv650s recently because the price difference is so low, anyway the TL1000S is the reason i got my licence and the tl engine is a true monster.


Anyway insurance companys recon im going to be safe enough to ride that the dont want my left testicle and im pondering either a lower power but slightly more reliable post 98 TLS, maybie a cagiva v raptor or possibly a sv1000, if anyone has been on these i would value your opinion.

To be honest the only reason i want one is physical size, im 6'2 and of stocky build an the sv feels a little cramped over long trips, im not actualy a typical nutter who buy them and get spat off in a ditch so will take it easy just like the idea of riding a bike built around my ergonomics rather than some scrawny japenese designer.

[Fortuna]

Not as quick or sorted as either the Honda or Ducati 1000cc V twins but they do make an awesome road bike. They do also have that weird suspension that apparently was the cause of a lot of biker deaths on these.

[sickpup]

[emszxr]

hi. i wouldnt touch a tlr or tls with a barge pole. fortuna is right about the suspension killing people. my last partner had a tlr and he was killed on it and i blame the suspesion. i was only on the back of it once and hated it, did not feel safe at all.

[Kickstart]

[sickpup]

Hi Keith

I recently put a load of parts on ebay off a 600SS that we broke at work.

The sidestand went for £113.00

Ask a Ducati dealer how much a service costs and laugh.

I've replaced the crankcases on a 888 due to them cracking under power. Same cases being used on the latest 99whatever.

MCN's London headquarters was down the road from where I used to work and I even worked on their test bikes which were abused to fuck. You might remember Rob Monroe-Hall (ex-editor) taking a CBR600 to the Island and writing it off into a bush, that was one of mine.

Each to their own I suppose but remember I used to service dukes, still do the odd one or two.

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[epz]

i know about the rotary damper which has been blamed for a lot of the probs, it seems it works a lot better if the rider weighs over 14 stone and sadly due to a pie excess i fall into that category with a stone or so spare.

that said TL's are so cheap you can justify speanding the cash on a properly setup suspension, many come with them second hand and i saw an ohlins rear damper go for £300 on ebay

[sickpup]

Hi Keith

Just had an X reg 996 in on saturday and the owner was telling me how he had the cases replaced after they split.

[Jewell]

i plan on getting one.....day i sell my 400.....tl 1000 S will be rolling into my garage.

had ago on one last week for the first time and oh my god....was mental.....front wheel just wants to be in the air constantly which i love.

had ago on alot of bikes....and this is by far the biggest grin factor....sod the 998s and 996 lol.

[Kickstart]

[Valver]

I owned a TL1000R for two years. Riden two other Rs and two Ss aswell.
I really rate them! Quicker and faster than an SP-1 but don't handle nearly aswell. Dunno about the rest of you but to me thats a good thing. Most newer bikes handle too well for my liking. Nothing like a good tank slapper to keep you feeling alive

[natv4]

My brother rides a TL1000S. The deaths were due to suspension causing violent head shake which was quite unpredictable.

The solution is very very simple. Fit a steering dampner. My brother has had no problems since having one.

The suspension is actually very good, but as said previously needs to be setup properly and combined with a decent steering dampner.
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[Phoenix]

My sister had one, and now has another one. I never liked it, it's the best V-twin engine I've ever experienced bearing in mind I'm not a fan of V-twins, but it handled like a bit of a bus.

If you do get an early one, check it's had it's recall work done. This will include a new tank gasket I believe (leaky tanks) and a new frame. My sister's frame cracked, and i'm talking a fairly substantianl break in the frame, around the damper mount (rear shock) and it's a common fault. Personally I think they're more trouble mechanically than they were ever worth, but they're nice engines, maybe the SV1000 is a better bike, get a go on both.

[natv4]

Would agree with Pheonix, you would have to really want one as they can be a real pain.

My brothers is one of the ones with the problem frame, he didn't know about it when he bought it. If you change to an after-market shock then you can use a the opposite mount points. Either that or get a good alloy welder (which is what he did).
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[Valver]

Buy an R instead you'll have no problems with one of them

[Ste]

[bish777]

My mate rick has one, an early S.

Yes they could be vicious headshakers, but he invested in a power commander to softent he powercurve out a bit, and fitted an aftermarket shock. Most of the TL's problems blamed on the shock were down to the fuel injection mappng being rather aggressive. He's had the racell work done which apperently involved a bit of welding of the frame with a little additional bracing.

It amazing that bikes can get a rep so quickly. After the GSXR1100 L came out and cause some crashes due to its severe geometry and powerful motor, ALL gsxr 1100s became deathtraps and headshakers, which is not the case, my 1100 G is lovely and easy to ride, and handles quite well (as good as any bike its age if not better bar the GSXR750 and certainly better than the GPz1000RS, FJ1200 etc)

If you like the TL1000S maybe youd consider the Cagiva Raptor? Similar thing, and despite lower peak power is a hoot. The power can be made up to TL levels with a little tweaking (identical engines)
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[cunni]

In my experiance, the TL1000R is a great bike. I've never had head shake, never felt like I was going to crash, just felt planted and solid on the road. It was great to corner on as well.

Ok, so it won't tip in as fast as a CBR600RR, but you can be a bit stronger on the bars and stick a 180 section on the rear wheel, then it isn't far off at all!

Raise the footpegs and you'll be dragging your toe sliders round every island you come to. They are the best cornering bike I've tried on the road. (Granted I haven't tried that many). I think the main problems about being a bit bus like are related to the track, a place where you can thrash the bollocks off a bike without getting arrested or killed.

To be fair, most people will never use the bike on the road to the point where the suspension could cause a problem, but if you do track days and you are in doubt, get the Ohlins or Maxton rear shock fitted.

They also have a stock steering damper as standard, but this could be changed to an adjustable one. The scare stories shouldn't relate to any bike other than the pre '98 TL1000S, but they were recalled and sorted.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about the 'Widdow Maker' type stories people tell, just get one and ride it. If you are pushing too hard, the bike will tell you. Plus, you won't mash into a car or wall, as you should be on track if your really pushing!

Go to The Thumper Zone and ask anyone there if they think it's a dangerous bike, they'll explain how great it really is!
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[Ste]

[cunni]

I've just gone past 20K and all is well.

Will it make dam obvious noises when it's going, or are they subtler than normal?
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[epz]

well i bought one and am still recovering from rideing it 4 hours home a couple of days ago, from the journey up i can tell you it isnt very comfortable after that long in the saddle but it seems really well setup for going into corners and the power isnt outrageously more than my sv650 but the feel and weight distribution are way better, ill have to spend more time on it on backroads where i know the location of the speed cameras.

it looks way cool in my garage at the moment since i have a yellow tls and sv650s side by side

[california_rookie]

Congrat's! I've always had a thing for Suzuki's V-Twin Superbike, suspension woes and all.
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[ZRX61]

I saw a guy on a TL get his ass handed to him on Angeles Crest Hwy by a guy driving a Volvo estate. I came up behind em, my arm was in a cast at the time & throttle control was a tad tricky so i just sat back & watched LMFAO

[Fortuna]