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(emoticon says more than my typing ever could) ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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 ____________________ Bikes owned: Aprilia RS 125 GP1 2003 (Now sold), Suzuki GSX-r600 1997 (streetfightered), https://www.bikepics.com/members/sychosis/
psy?cho?sis (si-ko-sis),n. pl. psy?cho?ses (-sez) ,A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by derangement of personality and loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning. |
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It makes me sick! DUAL STANDARDS! ____________________ The most wasted of all days is one without laughter.
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Hi
Reading it, it seems from the "black box" that they knew he was doing 90 but it went missing and they were too late getting evidence from the suppliers that it was accurate so it was excluded.
Given that he managed to hit a house it suggests it was a more built up area that the one driven in by the copper around Telford (at a lower speed in a 30 limit), but on the other hand this was an actual pursuit. One thing that is not mentioned is whether he was some normal plod with no more training than any of us, or whether he had actually been trained to drive at speed.
Personally I do not have enough info to make a reasoned judgement. What is more suspicious is the way this case has been handled with important evidence going missing, and other important evidence being excluded.
All the best
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well if its in derby most the roads there are quite slow arnt they? i havent even been there on my bike yet but iv seen maps of the place from arial view (multimap.com) and a few people i knew on the internet used to live there, from what iv heard its quite a built up area, doubt the copper had one bit of training and all his friends covered it up for him, coppers are a bunch of w@nker$ that all abuse their position  |
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typical example a true wanker
life goes on!
What if the wanker had actually killed people in the house he crashed into what would happen then? ____________________ Elen sila lummen omentielvo!
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 minesweeper Whoah there!
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Does make me laugh that the judge says he has no doubts he was'nt going at 90mph, hows that possible if the blackbox has dissappeared? was the judge watching the whole time?
Well with evidence in such cases only being available to investigating officers it must have been "misplaced" by someone, how unfortunate  |
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Reading the report IMO Philip Yates started a manoeuvre, saw/heard the fire engine and stopped. The engine was travelling to fast to avoid the car or stop. Again IMO driver gets same as the police officer should have got, dangerous driving. Same comments on Roadcraft apply.
Although my cynicism is such that if this was a police vehicle and Mr. Yates hadn't died he would be the one charged with dangerous driving.
You have to ask, is it normal/safe to approach a Give Way at 40-50mph? ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 212 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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