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PostPosted: 13:49 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Race scrubs for the road Reply with quote

Hi lads, anyone do this? Is there any issue using scrubs on the road. I have an easy supply of Supercorsas, Michelin Power Ones and Metzeler racetecs. Are they a bit overkill for daily use or generally ok if you warm them up ok?
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had any problems with mine, I always buy them rather than brand new tyres, especially when they only cost me 50 quid a pair.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know Mart the fitter, reckon he would fit my tyres to loose wheels or is he not too fussed if he isn't selling the rubber too?
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh he'll do that for you mate, as long as your not miles away from where he's based (Longton)
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Race scrubs for the road Reply with quote

Do it all the time.
Supercorsas I find often have more grip cold than 'touring' style tyres when warm. Racetecs many people believe are the same tyre with a different tread pattern.
I find supercorsas often warm up pretty well, but in some winter riding conditions even a proper set of block pattern wets don't warm up on track, so you're going to have no chance with any tyre on the road.
The Michelin Pilot Race's I had were absolutely terrible from cold and there's no way I would put them on a road bike. Can't comment on the power one.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glyn - What sort of cost do you know?

G - Yea i'd heard the SC and RT's were same tyre I just feel a bit overkill with them for the road but worth a go I think. Either way £50-70 for scrubs is a damn site better than £220 new.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably about 10 - 15 quid.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brought some part worn d209gps and they lasted nearly as long as a new set would have. Id much rather pay £60 then £200ish even if i get a few less miles out of them. Grip was superb and they worked well from cold. Not great in the wet though.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Race scrubs are the way to go, unless you need tyres in a hurry, and can't get your hands on some.

They square off quicker, but as they cost a lot less, you can just replace them more often.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
Race scrubs are the way to go, unless you need tyres in a hurry, and can't get your hands on some.

They square off quicker, but as they cost a lot less, you can just replace them more often.

I got this one off Mart, total cost, £30 fitted.

It's going to last for f*cking ever Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get race scrubs, just be careful they havn't done too many cycles.

I could sell my supercorsas as part worn race tyres, as they are bubbled from track use, but due to being used on the road a fair bit, coupled with 2 hot trackdays....they seem to have lost all semblence of grip.


They are quite fun, while also being totally terrifying....but I refuse to spend money on new ones, as they will only get ruined over winter...might aswell use the ruined ones while I'll be doing the slower riding over winter anyway...
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's deffinatly the way to go, the supercorsa's seem to be the best, during summer they started graining quite abit for me if i wasn't hanging about, the grip was excellent Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the fronts tend to go over time with road use through heat cycles/age, but I tend to have worn the rears down before they have the chance - at least for them to have noticeably worse grip.
Tried to do a burnout the other day to get a bit of heat into the rear and it just kept pushing the front Sad. I've got some tyre on my spare wheel, not sure what, must check it.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 29 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I find the fronts tend to go over time with road use through heat cycles/age, but I tend to have worn the rears down before they have the chance - at least for them to have noticeably worse grip.
Tried to do a burnout the other day to get a bit of heat into the rear and it just kept pushing the front Sad. I've got some tyre on my spare wheel, not sure what, must check it.


Seems the other way round for me, front feels ok, but the back just spins up at the slightest hint of slightly hard accelleration.

It's giving me some good throttle control skills though, thats for sure....especially with the quick action throttle.
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for races scrubs here to i use them on the back of the dl650 (dunlop sportsmax triple compound). I get a front and a back for £20 the front wont fit the dl so i give that to the guy who fits my tyres to flog and he fits the rear for free . Thumbs Up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 30 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another plus one for the scrubs, on my second pair now of Racetecs and loving them, my mates still marvel over them and cant believe their grip.

When I had my first pair fitted, my tyre guy said be careful of tank slap on the country roads, that put the wind up me when I rode them to be honest, but I soon forgot about that and never had an issue with tank slap at all.

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PostPosted: 00:58 - 31 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

nc30 can u get 120/70/17 and 160/60/17 by eny chance? and get them posted??? <3
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nc30 can u get 120/70/17 and 160/60/17 by eny chance? and get them posted??? <3
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 31 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

nc30 can u get 120/70/17 and 160/60/17 by eny chance? and get them posted??? <3
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PostPosted: 02:46 - 31 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
colin1 wrote:
Race scrubs are the way to go, unless you need tyres in a hurry, and can't get your hands on some.

They square off quicker, but as they cost a lot less, you can just replace them more often.

I got this one off Mart, total cost, £30 fitted.

It's going to last for f*cking ever Laughing
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Your brake line looks a bit close there glyn ?
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 31 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelGrinder wrote:

Seems the other way round for me, front feels ok, but the back just spins up at the slightest hint of slightly hard accelleration.

Forgot to respond at the time - but do the rears still have tread left?
I do have a few bad habits that may 'abuse' rear tyres a little, which probably don't help Smile.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 31 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Race scrubs are ok for the track but you will never keep them at the right operating temp they need to work properly when road riding. Better of with something like 2cts or the Dunlop rrs etc
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 31 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay81 wrote:
Race scrubs are ok for the track but you will never keep them at the right operating temp they need to work properly when road riding. Better of with something like 2cts or the Dunlop rrs etc
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Supercorsas I find often have more grip cold than 'touring' style tyres when warm. Racetecs many people believe are the same tyre with a different tread pattern.
I find supercorsas often warm up pretty well, but in some winter riding conditions even a proper set of block pattern wets don't warm up on track, so you're going to have no chance with any tyre on the road.

Smile - Get the right tyres and their 'operating temperature' required for road riding starts at 'cold'.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 31 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay81 wrote:
Race scrubs are ok for the track but you will never keep them at the right operating temp they need to work properly when road riding. Better of with something like 2cts or the Dunlop rrs etc


In winter i'd agree, but in summer if you can't get race scrubs working there's something majorly wrong.

dunlop rr's suck balls in my experience, you start pushing them and the front always felt like it was washing out no matter what i did with the various settings, anyway when they were shagged, replaced for supercorsa's and all is well. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 01 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

vt6 wrote:

G - Yea i'd heard the SC and RT's were same tyre


Not quite the same, but similar yes. It's been alleged that Supercorsas have better front end feel. Personally I use Race tecs as they are 40 quid a pair cheaper.

As for scrubs on the road, it's up to the individual. You're unlikely to need all the grip they have to offer in a road situation anyway, so as long as you have "enough" then the warm up thing shouldn't be an issue. Obviously they'll wear really quickly.
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