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JodieWodie
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: The technique.. Reply with quote

..for lifting a heavy bike if it has fallen.

Can someone enlighten me please ?
Something about two hand under a certain bit of the bar ?

I recall seeing it on here somewhere before vaguely, but can't find it.


Thanks in advance,

Jo xxx

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PostPosted: 21:05 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way is to get someone else to help. We are talkng about nearly 400lb of bike here. Two man lift is definatley the way forwards Thumbs Up

I don't know the technique as being a big lad, I can just hump the ting up. Whatever you do keep your back straight and don't strain yourself, it is not worth getting injured over.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lift with your legs and not your back Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you dropped your bike? Eh?
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zxr400er wrote:
Have you dropped your bike? Eh?


Good God no !! Shocked Surprised That would gut me.
Don't jinx me like that! Wink

I was just wondering if that fateful day ever arrives.
Fiance and I were discussing it.
His is a VTR1000 and a lot heavier than mine.
Wondered what we would do if we were on an isolated road etc.. with no-one around.

J x
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had to do it myself, so don't quote me, but I'm sure you're meant to turn the handlebars so the one nearest the floor is as close to the front of the bike as possible (if you see what I mean). You then grab that handlebar with two hands and lift/push/walk towards the bike. Oh, and try not to put your back out!
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Re: The technique.. Reply with quote

JodieWodie wrote:
..for lifting a heavy bike if it has fallen.


Is this a 'Oh Shit my bikes on it's side in the garden' type post or a random 'what would I need to do if' type post.

Just curious. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Re: The technique.. Reply with quote

dibbster wrote:
JodieWodie wrote:
..for lifting a heavy bike if it has fallen.


Is this a 'Oh Shit my bikes on it's side in the garden' type post or a random 'what would I need to do if' type post.

Just curious. Laughing


Haha..the latter...see above ^^^I should have clarified.

J xx Wink
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found that squatting in the middle and lifting it by the tank the best way. Obviously the tank isn't designed for sideways forces but it's worked for me.
The handlebard seemed too tricky at the time.

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PostPosted: 22:57 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bikes been over three times. Its a CBR600 and weighs about 26 stone dry. I weigh 11 stone wet through!

My technique is to turn the bars to oppostite lock (opposite to the ground) put two hands together with fingers entwined and lift (as said before) with legs and not back. You can back this up with some swearing and grunting, as I find this always helps.

Last time was lifting up against the gradient of a hill and it took some lifting.

I would also reccoment to anyone, if you have dropped the bike by accident then lift it immediately, that way you still have the rage. same applies if you crash, once you are sure you are ok use the adrenalin to pick it up, other than that its going to be a two man 'nice afternoon for a back injury' event!

And heres to no-one one on here never having to lift there bike again. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 22:59 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My firestorm fell over last year (sidestand melted into hot tarmac)
It was suprisingly easy to get back up, but the best advice would be to leave it on the floor and go and get help, because if you get it 1/2 way up and fail, you'll end up with even more damage and scratches as it goes back down.

I also worked as a race marshall for many years and found the best way for a solo lift was to turn the bars so that the front wheel point skyward (so its on full lock), crouch down, grab both hands on whichever handlebar is nearest the ground, and lifting with your legs, make one quick lifting movement (Doing it slowly always fails). As it comes up about 1/2 way, lean into it, and shove your weight into it with your leg. Careful not to drop it onto the other side!

Practice makes perfect, Unless its a BMW or Guzzi, in which case call for a crane.

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(edit) Hi Villers, you just got your post in before me, so sorry for repeating bits
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 21 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

No probs! Wink Plus sounds like youve had more experience than me!
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

One recommendation is to turn you back on the bike to lift it. This way you have the space to bend your knees and keep your back straight.

All the best

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PostPosted: 00:58 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
My bikes been over three times. Its a CBR600 and weighs about 26 stone dry. I weigh 11 stone wet through!

My technique is to turn the bars to oppostite lock (opposite to the ground) put two hands together with fingers entwined and lift (as said before) with legs and not back. You can back this up with some swearing and grunting, as I find this always helps.

Last time was lifting up against the gradient of a hill and it took some lifting.

I would also reccoment to anyone, if you have dropped the bike by accident then lift it immediately, that way you still have the rage. same applies if you crash, once you are sure you are ok use the adrenalin to pick it up, other than that its going to be a two man 'nice afternoon for a back injury' event!

And heres to no-one one on here never having to lift there bike again. Thumbs Up

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Hi,

Probably me drivelling on not knowing what I'm talking about, but I wouldn't advise lifting your bike up straight after an accident, let alone any other extremel physical movement for a while, as you probably won't notice the extremity of your injuries until the adrenaline has worn off.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: 01:20 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found that adrenaline was a useful help. Neutral
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree - Better to lift bike asap with the aid of the adrenaline, and worry about injuries later.

The wheel pointing skywards has always worked for me, lifting with the handlebars.
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some practical video clips you could always watch the long way round dvd by Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman- god knows their BMWs get dropped enough in Siberia!!!
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamie_ducati wrote:
For some practical video clips you could always watch the long way round dvd by Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman- god knows their BMWs get dropped enough in Siberia!!!


I still haven't seen that! I'm gonna have to buy/download it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Better to lift bike asap with the aid of the adrenaline, and worry about injuries later.
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if you have dropped the bike by accident then lift it immediately, that way you still have the rage. same applies if you crash,


in theory this is good. but you can make injuries a lot worse without knowing it. my RS125 (not a heavy bike) was on its side after a crash. i went to lift it and it wouldnt lift. about and hour and a half later i found out why. i had bruised the bone in my hip and torn shoulder muscles. luckily some friends drove past and saw me home. However, i am sure the injuries wouldnt have been as bad if i'd just left it. which i did after the 3rd attempt.

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PostPosted: 09:42 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little off topic but "the long way round" on DVD is 9.99 in virgin sale at the mo. I got a copy last week Razz
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
One recommendation is to turn you back on the bike to lift it. This way you have the space to bend your knees and keep your back straight.

My mate tried doing that, and yes it is a greatly easier way of lifting it... but the downside comes when your lifting it after its fallen on its left side... there is no side stand to put down incase it falls over the other side... and supprise supprise he lifted it, but because he was facing the other way, he couldnt catch it when it started falling the other way as it started to stand up straight Confused

The way i normally lift it (GS500E god knows how heavy, im only a skinny 18 year old (Well 18 today Laughing Cool ) ), is to put one hand on the sub frame under the seat, and one hand on the end of the left handlebar... bend and lift.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did put this post in another thread.

Quick guide to picking up a medium sized bike (this works, tried out of necessity)...

Arrow Go to side that bike has fallen on
Arrow Turn handlebars so wheel is pointing up (bar away from tank)
Arrow Face bike and bend knees and place both hands on bar grip, feet either side of bar
Arrow Lift by straighten knees with straight back, lifting bars as you go. Lift with legs, not your back.
Arrow Shuffle forward to support bike with knee, continue lift and bike should be upright.
Arrow Supporting with leg/knee should stop you flipping it over to the other side Wink
Arrow Put on side stand and take a deep breath.

That said, I did try this method with big tourer packed full and it wouldn't budge (maybe me just being weak, 2 people lifting was ok).

There is another similar technique with your back to the bike - to see this method click here

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PostPosted: 10:49 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had to try it, but there's some useful sounding advice from some Yanks on Picking Up A Big Bike - by yourself!

That whole site is quite interesting. US biased, but some interesting stuff there The MS Group
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust me - when the time comes, 200kg+ will feel like nothing when trying to save your precious bike.

I hit gravel at less than 5mph in a car park and the front wheel slid away as I was turning into a space - stuck my right foot down and picked the thing up with one leg!!! It's amazing how strong you become in these situations!

Alternatively, watch the Long Way Round and watch how Ewan and Charlie pick up their bikes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 22 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried lifting a 125 by the tank and seat and really struggled. But had no problem lifting by bandit by grabbing the the nearside handle bar and lifting with my legs.
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