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 Posted: 09:41 - 21 Sep 2005 Post subject: THINK! advert campaign ? |
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On channel 4 last night just after 1am there was a THINK! road safety advert on featuring a bike (I was tired and a little drunk so the description ends at it being a red bike, no idea what make). The guy was riding along and there were road signs for diesel spills, cars pulling out, horse shit on the road, tight corners, etc.
The point of the advert being 'wouldn't it be nice if all the hazards were sign-posted, but they're not, so be careful'. In my semi-concious state it dawned on me that a better time for adverts about bike safety would have been maybe May, June, July etc, when the weather gets better and not the tail end of September when many people are putting their bikes away for the winter.
Does anyone know if I missed the whole campaign or is it badly timed ? (or maybe advert time on C4 at 1am is cheap ) ____________________ Professional Uberslacker
2006 Kawasaki Z1000 - Black at the front, airbrushed fade to red at the back.
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The clip is part of the campaign but it is long so that's why I suspect it gets run at odd times on the TV. I doubt many have seen it because of this.
It is on this DVD which you can get for £3 (which apparently includes a donation to charity).
The DVD got some poor reviews on BCF but you'll really have to make your own mind up about it.
In terms of bike safety I'm one who shouts for car drivers to take a CBT as part of the test. At least then they'll know how vunerable and often unseen bikes are. don't know why the likes of the BMF and MAG don't shout about this too (if they're thinking of tighter licence rules for bikers why not give the car one a review ).
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Good post, Keen.
BTW I believe the bike is a Ducati 999, but not wanting to give away free advertising they seem to have taken off the small decal on each side..
..despite the fact that Ducatis have the most distinguishable headlight in the world.  |
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cheers
yeah I'm pretty sure its a 999 as well. ____________________ "he who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"- Dr. Johnson |
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Pretty lame ad - production values smack a bit of a David Brent corporate training video.
The only really good thing about the ad is the steam coming off the cow shit. Now that's realistic.
And I can't believe he didn't flip the bird to the tractor driver.  |
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| Quote: | You can try and make drivers bike-friendly all you like, for the most part it's not going to make a jot of difference. But if you aim the message toward the biker, the far more interested party on the basis of who's going to be the one getting hurt, it might actually stick |
Very true,
however, i feel they should target it differently. They say
"the road is not a racetrack"
This implies we all speed and drive irresponsibly. which isnt the case. they should say
"be careful, you dont know what other people are about to do"
it just really ticks me off that they effectively transfer responsibility to us to make sure cars dont knock us off. yes we should be careful, yes we should be made more aware. but so should cars, and the ads shouldnt incriminate (directly or indirectly) bikers cos they have fast machines.
like i say the way its presented (more than the message itself) that really gets up my nose
| Quote: | Plus, no matter how much you say it, people who think car drivers are more at blame for bike accidents than bike riders is delusional, it's just the statistics.
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they seem to be responsible for bad accidents. look at the crash thread, all biker only crashes (yes there are more of them) have relatively minor injuries. the ones where a car is to blame there are broken bones lots or pain etc...
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they seem to be responsible for bad accidents. look at the crash thread, all biker only crashes (yes there are more of them) have relatively minor injuries. the ones where a car is to blame there are broken bones lots or pain etc... |
The meaning of 'to blame' seems to vary a lot from person to person, personally I think a lot of the accidents I've seen posted on here could have been avoided if the biker had been a bit more switched on - sure the car is the one that's made the bigger error but there are people who ride straight into the car that's halfway out the junction and there are people who successfully avoid it.
Don't get me wrong, I think car drivers should be more educated about bikes, but I also think there's an awful lot of bikers out there who need to switch their brains on. I believe there have been a couple of 'THINK' films that were more aimed at the cagers, I remember a rather graphic one (at the cinema) highlighting the need to look for bikes when turning right, and I think there was a variation on it which pitched a bit more of a 'you both need to look out for each other' kinda vibe. I like the Ducati advert cos it's basically saying 'you can go out and have a great time on your bike and be safe, provided you use your brain a bit'. Judging by the number of bike-only accidents, a few more people need to realise that.
As for motorway signs, remember they're aimed at the lowest common denominator. Those of us with a brain need not worry about them, but the ignorant masses seem to need to be told that they should slow down when it's raining, that the motorway isn't a racetrack, that fog means poor visibility... |
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I have often thought that it would be useful to have the single word "Think" displayed on the m/way matrix signs when they are not being used for other messages.  |
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It is a good advert even if only cars drivers have a small insight to how much more at risk a bike is compared to a car
as for blaming most accidents on car drivers, yes on the one hand its "would i have had an accident if that car didn't do that " but on the other " would an advanced police rider crashed there?" usually the answer is no they wouldn't have crashed and therefore the biker must take some responsibiltity for it  ____________________ CBR125R - CBR600Fy
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In terms of bike safety I'm one who shouts for car drivers to take a CBT as part of the test. At least then they'll know how vunerable and often unseen bikes are. don't know why the likes of the BMF and MAG don't shout about this too (if they're thinking of tighter licence rules for bikers why not give the car one a review ).
HTH [/quote]
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i could not agree more map, i have often thought when on the rode in less than desirable conditions that drivers could understand some of the conditions we have to deal with, for example, we need to ride around metal grids in the middle of the roads in the rain, the pot holes that will knacker the forks, the heat wearing full bike gear in the hight of summer and the freezing cold when riding in winter are just the minimum of what us all year riders deal with day in day out. although saying that i would die before i swopped a freezing ride to work or where ever else for a drive to work with my radio blaring and the heating on full. but thats because im a real biker chick n i LOVE IT!!!  ____________________ squeeeeeeeeeeek |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 148 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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