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 countryhare Borekit Bruiser
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 Posted: 20:41 - 30 Sep 2005 Post subject: Tyre talk |
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I am due to change my tyres soon, has anyone any suggestions on which rubber bits I should use, have tried condoms, not very sensitive in the wet.
Honda VTR SP2 git (abuse lover)
Am using at mo Diabl's they seem ok, but room for improvement.
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 Posted: 20:46 - 30 Sep 2005 Post subject: Re: Tyre talk |
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What sort of riding you do?
Where possible I tend to use race scrubs (still might have a pair left in your size for sale ), £50 - £80 per set depending on wear, pretty damn grippy.
Do wear out fairly quickly, but as with everything, depends how you use them (and how many burnouts you do ), know people have got 1500 miles out of a rear in the past. |
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Tyre pimp.  |
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 countryhare Borekit Bruiser
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 Posted: 08:23 - 01 Oct 2005 Post subject: Tyres |
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Thanks for the advice guys.  |
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Dunlops
2nd hand tyre????
Like wearing a second hand lid.  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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Yes used tyre are cheaper.
But it's not the safest way to enjoy motorcycling on public roads.
How are you to know the tyre were 'allways' on the track?
I bought a set of those track tyres from the English mob who remould.
Forgot the name. Thankfully
Not going to bother again.
After 1500mls they went all out of shape and I had to rebalance and after 2500 I scrapped them.
Tyres are the only part of the bike in contact with the road surface and need to be good to protect you.
I just would not trust someone else's tyres on the road.
Good for the track yes. Where if you drop the bike coz of a blow out you don't go under a truck.
The guy asked for advice I gave him good advice. ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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I told myself I wouldn't bite, but as this is a case of advice in relation to riding bikes, I feel I should.
| Walloper wrote: | But it's not the safest way to enjoy motorcycling on public roads. |
You get a stickier tyre for less money. That makes it safer in my opinion.
| Quote: | How are you to know the tyre were 'allways' on the track? |
I'm not sure it matters where else they were? If the rider crashed with them, it's unlikely to cause damage and going to be very obvious if it did.
| Quote: | I bought a set of those track tyres from the English mob who remould.
Forgot the name. Thankfully
Not going to bother again. |
Remoulds are another matter and definitely not reccomended by me or anyone I've talked to. This is how ever not what we're talking about, so if your experience is based upon that, I suggust you keep your advice to that.
Remoulds are not the same as 'scrubs' which are part used tyres, rather than a new tread on an old carcass.
| Quote: | I just would not trust someone else's tyres on the road.
Good for the track yes. Where if you drop the bike coz of a blow out you don't go under a truck. |
No, you may well get hit by a bike doing 150mph just behind you, or highsided off your bike into the middle of the track.
If you're spending at the very least £500 a weekend, you make sure your tyres aren't going to have problems.
If you don't trust such tyres, fair enough, but can you please justify why others shouldn't buy them, rather than what seems to boil down to "you don't like the idea".
Rather than buying a second hand helmet, I would suggest this is like buying a second hand bike. You asses the condition it's in and consider what you pay for it.
Race scrub tyres will have lost a bit of grip through heat cycles - why they are being sold, after all. However they will still offer a massive amount more grip than 'normal' road tyres.
Even a seriously abused tyre will offer more grip than most road tyres I expect - and will be easier to tell because the tyre's condition is much more obvious. |
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 countryhare Borekit Bruiser
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 Posted: 20:26 - 01 Oct 2005 Post subject: Tyres |
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Well guys you have all had given me an assortment to choose from,I really need someone who has a SP2, as these machines are a hand full I am not saying your bikes are much different to mine, but you know what V twins are like, with so much torque on the rear wheel. I used RR Dunlops on my Firestorm, ye very good when hot but in the wet like riding on soap, and cold forget it.
A difficult one, I have fallen off to many times in the past, my fought thou, been bloody lucky I suppose, don't want to trash my baby, took me a long time to get this beauty.
I hear you say, well don't ride like a pratt then, I like the adrenalin rush, nothing like it. Keep coming with the info.
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I posted a perfectly normal statement based on my own experience.
I don't do track days
Did countryhare say he wanted tyres for a track day?
And for the benefit of the dopey dummies that pick up on every little bit of fluff that's posted
A good tyre doesn't necessarily mean a sticky tyre.
Mileage is another factor that most people consider when choosing a tyre.
Different for a track bike.
And I'm going out now to get plastered so no time to elabourate for the slower of you.
I was good at school you know. A quick Learner the teacher said. ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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Mileage is an important issue to consider, but tyres really aren't something you should skimp on. All you have between you and the ground is two areas of rubber each about the size of a playing card. How well they can grip is one of the most important things about your bike, especially if you're upping the pace. ____________________ I must not be a troll...
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| mchaggis wrote: | Mileage is an important issue to consider, but tyres really aren't something you should skimp on. All you have between you and the ground is two areas of rubber each about the size of a playing card. How well they can grip is one of the most important things about your bike, especially if you're upping the pace. |
True but its hard to find anything other than good tyres in superbike sizes-the hardest is sports touring tyres mostly, which I use due to the thousands of commuting miles i get through. I run Avon Azaros mostly due to being good in the wet and cheap.
As far as handling goes, on the road, a sports touring tyre is perfectly good-my azaros do give a squirmy feeling when really pushed hard but have never ever let go once.
I did have a set of pirelli diablos on my FZR750, and yes they did feel much better, but wore out far too quickly and werent a massive improvement overr subsequent BT020 and AV455/46s, which lasted a fair bit longer.
Of course, being a streetfighter pilot, good hard wearing tyres are amust for the frequent rolling burnouts. ____________________ GSXR1100J |
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Dunlop 207's on the TL hardest "sports" tyre I could think of which gives me more than 2000 miles out of a rear  ____________________ gixxer thou K6 , Cbr400 gullarm x 2 , cb400 superhack. |
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