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PostPosted: 13:32 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: how do you do a wheelie??? Reply with quote

hi,

how do you wheelie?? i guess that you hold clutch, rev n let out clutch but i don't want to damage my bike if it goes wrong!!

any tips/hints??
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a TL1000s and open the throttle
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really has a lot to do with what bike your trying to wheelie. Some come up really fast, some really slow. If you don't know anything about what a bike feels like on the back wheel its best to start trying it at a higher speed. The front will lift more slowly than it would at say 5 or 10 mph so there's less chance of flipping it. There are quite a few wheelie schools about now. If you've got the money its a lot safer to be taught by a proffessional.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh right, didn't even know they did wheelie schools!!

i've got a kawasaki gpz500s yr2000, if that helps?
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never actually rode one of those but what i'd suggest is that you find a nice quiet stretch of road: 2nd gear, 30 mph, clutch in , loads of revs, clutch out. You shouldn't hold the clutch all the way in. Just slip it using two fingers. keep practising this then, once your used to it, try doing it at a slower speed. It will lift a lot easier. If your not sure don't do it. It can be very expensive/painful when you get it wrong.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL666 wrote:
I've never actually rode one of those but what i'd suggest is that you find a nice quiet stretch of road: 2nd gear, 30 mph, clutch in , loads of revs, clutch out.


Lol, yeh right. 2nd at 30 to learn with... Wont even hop.

Stick it in first, set off up to about 30 ish with slow acceleration, get to about peak torque, roll off the throttle slightly then snap it back on. Believe me the first time it will barely lift on a 500. If u were learning on an R1 id suggest more caution.

The CBR barely lifts in 2nd. The VFR barely lifts in 2nd.
Powerwheelies are mroe beginner friendly but can go wrong.
Clutch is by far the best, but again can go wrong.

End of the day, practice away from any peer pressure. My first wheelies were pathetic. But cos i was on my own i didnt know. But i started to get comfy on the back wheel before it got over a foot high Laughing

Getting comfy with the front in the air is the main point. Not the height or distance.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what would you suggest for a gsxr600 srad then?
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Lol, yeh right. 2nd at 30 to learn with... Wont even hop.




I stand corrected. Its getting on for 10 years since i've ridden anything that can't do that
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

LUXY DJ wrote:
so what would you suggest for a gsxr600 srad then?


Pretty much the same. Just be abit mroe careful as that could snarl up quite happily. It takes a fair bit to get used to the front being in the air.

One thing i will always always suggest is never do wheelies anywhere were you will have to adjust yur positioning slightly. For instance coming up to roundabouts. What happens is you move the bars slightly and land crossed up. I used to do that a fair bit.

Way i actually learnt on the cbr (near as damn your bike) was clutching. But from about 40 odd in first. So cruise up to 40 ish in first, depress the clutch just the stationary side of bite point, blip the throttle and let go. Front should crest slightly Work to slowly speeds and more 'blipping' SLOWLY.

Im sure everyone who wheelies has had a few 'oh shit its gonna flip' moments. Just build up slowly and you should be used to the feeling enough to think properly.

Also with power wheelies, i dont find them anywhere near as stable as clutching. But it feels safer as an idea. So do what feels comfortable. Power wheelies to get them high often require tugging aswell. Which im sure is probably not helping the stability.

Oh and remember to try and avoid panic accelerating or panic shutting the throttle off. If it goes wrong close the throttle a bit. If it goes absolute bonkers back brake and clutch are your friends.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL666 wrote:
bonny_ricardo wrote:
Lol, yeh right. 2nd at 30 to learn with... Wont even hop.




I stand corrected. Its getting on for 10 years since i've ridden anything that can't do that


Lucky sod.

The vfr just about hops if you clutch it.

Cbr again just about hops, but it aint happy.

Im sure if i dumped the clutch at high revs from near as damn stationary in 2nd both would flip.

But i dont want to test that theory Laughing

I stick with first. Trying to 'master' first to second. One has worked ok. They look so much smoother, but because i found out the fun way a while back that when you click to second it pops another foot higher (on a mates bike, staring down at the headlight) i have only had one about a foot of the floor.

Looked smooth. But dull.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

New bikes like to wheelie easy. Very Happy My zx6r did quite happily 2nd gear powerwheelies.

I would sugguest 33bhp clutch as thats all you can do. Full power power wheelie although im not sure your bike will like to do that. Its the easiest way to get used to the nose in the air.

Best bet is to speak to G Korn or Sparks as they are the forum wheelie gods. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

any idea how to go about wheeliying a FJR?
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same for any bike, power it if you can as its alot easier for a n00bie to control, get comfortable with the wheel in the air and then come back. Mr. Green

Main thing is to have balls, if you think its gonna flip then it most likely isn't. I don't know many people that have crashed a wheelie but then again i don't know many people that can do it. Very Happy

My dad can do pretty good power wheelies on his zzr and hes 41 so anything is possible. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone know if a full power zxr400 will power wheely Confused Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

riichy wrote:
anyone know if a full power zxr400 will power wheely Confused Mr. Green


Nope, it is impossible, tried it, it dont happen, even snapping the throttle at 12000 rpm.


Need clutch.

In first gear, nail it off the bottom, when the revs hit 8000, whip the clutch in and out sharpish (still with the throttle pinned)
trust me, the front will rise to attention

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PostPosted: 20:57 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

riichy wrote:
anyone know if a full power zxr400 will power wheely Confused Mr. Green


Should do, my GSXR400 used to powerwheelie in first from really really heavy acceleration, it was the RRSP model though so i think the gearing is alot taller.

Cool
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

33bhp restricted bikes wheelie just as well as full power.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparks! wrote:
33bhp restricted bikes wheelie just as well as full power.


Do they fuck.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are the same to wheely off clutch, no difference what so ever.

I don't think the power would be all that different either.

Although I'm talking more about sports 6/1000 etc here.

If anything a 33bhp restriction would mean less power which would make clutching a bit smoother.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

They wheelie nicely restricted, only problem is you have to change from first to second very very quickly. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what about a RS125 then??

(waits to get told to shut up and get a proper bike lol)
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol thanks laids,,,,,, might go try it when i grow some balls Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dansuresh wrote:


(waits to get told to shut up and get a proper bike lol)


Well said.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

so no possibilty then?!?

would learning to do it on a RS be better cos it would be harder to do?

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PostPosted: 22:23 - 14 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dansuresh wrote:
so no possibilty then?!?

would learning to do it on a RS be better cos it would be harder to do?

Thanks
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You can never wheelie them well. You can pop the front up, but its kinda like chickens flying. The flutter in a very non graceful way.

If you went from being a wheelie god after learning on something easy (ie proper grunt) it might be doable, but its not the best bike in the world by any means.

That said people can do some very cool shit on 125's if they are 1337 Laughing


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