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PostPosted: 20:49 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: CG125 - Feels 'Slidey' under braking? Reply with quote

Hi,

I have noticed for a while now, my CG125 has the feeling of 'slipping' left and right everywhere I go under normal riding, and definately feels very wrong under slight braking.

Is this me? Or more likely to be the bike?
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at this time of year we all get this m8 the road are damp or greesy and even when they look dry the salt make s em slippery.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check your tyre pressures. Check the head bearings for play, the wheel bearings for grumbles and the wheel alignment.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure what adjustment is on the shock, but you could try to soften the rear shock a bit
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knowlsey wrote:
not sure what adjustment is on the shock, but you could try to soften the rear shock a bit


It's quite tight, I dont know whether this makes it hard or soft, (I presume it means theres less suspension travel, therefore hard) but I don't have a C-Spanner, and I either can't find or don't have a toolkit.

Toby
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Knowlsey wrote:
not sure what adjustment is on the shock, but you could try to soften the rear shock a bit


It's quite tight, I dont know whether this makes it hard or soft, (I presume it means theres less suspension travel, therefore hard) but I don't have a C-Spanner, and I either can't find or don't have a toolkit.

Toby


that sounds like its hard to me, normally for a heavy person or two up, spanners aren't that much to buy, a few quid for my last cheapy one, i keep losing the bluddy things
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it wasn't doing it before, adjusting the shock isn't going to fix it unless you have been messing with the settings (which is unlikely if you don't have a c-spanner).
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If it wasn't doing it before, adjusting the shock isn't going to fix it unless you have been messing with the settings (which is unlikely if you don't have a c-spanner).


Its far too bumpy on this setting though, which is why I asked Smile

I'll check tyre pressures, they're likely to be the culprit.

Any idea on what pressures I need to be running on in this weather? Front is 25psi rear is 29psi manufacturers settings, shoudl I be putting more in than that because of the cold weather?

Do C spanners come in sizes or are they generic?

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Toby
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could also depend what type of tyres you have on, some are absolutely crap in the winter, especially with the salt on the roads, the salt has an additive in it to stop it spreading in clumps, this additive is greasy

As for the c spanner, i had one that fit all the bikes i had, the spanners notch fit in all them and the diameter was enough to get hold, but you can get adjustable ones


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PostPosted: 22:55 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the tyre pressures recommended in the owners manual. Put a bit more in if you are heavily loaded.

Having overly soft tyres is a common cause of handling problems. As has also been said, the roads are in shite order at this time of year so keep it smooth.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby im on 29 front 33 rear as i am a fat Bas*ard Laughing but check the tyres i started getting slip especialty at the start of roundabouts? prob of all the crap on the road. result is a new rear tyre the back was worn enough to question how much grip was in the centre.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

shammon wrote:
Toby im on 29 front 33 rear as i am a fat Bas*ard Laughing but check the tyres i started getting slip especialty at the start of roundabouts? prob of all the crap on the road. result is a new rear tyre the back was worn enough to question how much grip was in the centre.
remember if the road glitters where are the gritters, take it easy

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Hi,

I'm 11 stone, 6 foot, think manufacturers settings should be alright for me, might put an extra PSI in each.

Yeah I was coming to a roundabout in the right hand lane, when there was a lorry PARKED in that lane (Insane I know) so I moved to the left to pull out, looked right before I go past the lorry, nothing there, got past the lorry, looked out, royal mail van caining it round so I braked quite harshly, que slipping around like a mouse on hot butter.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you checked the tread on the rear tyre?

it took a guy at work to point out to me the my lowly kymo was in need of new shoes but i hadn't realised before and i'd been riding the bike for a year Embarassed i did begin to wonder why it was slightly unstable under braking in damp conditions Brick Wall
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

T1z3R wrote:
have you checked the tread on the rear tyre?

it took a guy at work to point out to me the my lowly kymo was in need of new shoes but i hadn't realised before and i'd been riding the bike for a year Embarassed i did begin to wonder why it was slightly unstable under braking in damp conditions Brick Wall


Oh yeah, there's buggerloads of tread left.

The tyres are some shitty make though.. "IRC" tyres? Anyone know em?
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japanese made tyres, can't say i have ever heard of them to be honest.

Pirelli City demons or something?
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 03 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Japanese made tyres, can't say i have ever heard of them to be honest.

Pirelli City demons or something?


Sorry, I dont understand, is that a suggestion of new tyre?
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 04 Jan 2006    Post subject: Michelin M45 Reply with quote

I got a rear of these on my little Hongdou. So far so good, no complaints, plenty of grip and neutral handling. Mind you, I am comparing it to a squared off almost bald plastic Chinese tyre. Cornering with that was fine up to a point, when you suddenly dropped over the edge of the square. Shocked Replacing it was one of the better things I've done to that bike.

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A rear cost me £42 fitted with a new tube from my mechanic, other places wanted between £47-55. That is if you're looking for a new rear tyre. First I'd check for any loose nuts and bolts. The front end braking went a bit odd and I ignored it. After a while it started clunking and making braking with the front really quite scary. I had a look and there was almost 5mm of clearance slopping about where the front wheel nut should have been tight. Shocked Embarassed Sick
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 04 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:

Sorry, I dont understand, is that a suggestion of new tyre?


Dunno. As I said I have never heard of the make, but they are Japanese as opposed to Chinese/Korean/Taiwanese which would tend to suggest they should be of reasonable quality.

I mentioned the pirellis as ones I know as being fairly good yet inexpensive.
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