Why do they always pull out before looking? (another crash)

TheBoyChris · Scooby Slapper Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Karma :

So I've now had my second accident, and my pristene CBR 125 bought from these forums is now going to need some repair work.

Two lanes of traffic, the lane on the right is turning right and has a few cars stuck behind someone waiting to turn. Guy in a Vectra decides not to wait and pulls out, thus putting him directly in my path since I'm coming up the left lane.

I brake. He brakes. I slide. He doesn't. I go down on my elbow and completely miss him. And yes, it went down bloody can side. Thankfully he stopped and from talking to him he was more shook up than me, heh. Bike still starts, managed to get to work on it.

He's given me his details and everything and I've got witnesses, but god seems to have a cruel sense of humour.

My CBT ran out 2 days ago and I completely forgot. *sigh* - I'm going to get shafted now aren't I.

Bollocks - crashing sucks.
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veeeffarr · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Karma :

Bollocks, didn't know it was 2 days ago...

I'd try to settle with him outside of insurance if that is the case.

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Rob W · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Karma :

Shit mate, never nice to hear of someone going down, least your OK though.

Try and sort it outside of insurance, perhaps blag it and say you'll take a couple of hundred quid for the damage, neither of you wants to lose your NCB etc.., should work out hopefully.

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dainesefreak · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Karma :

To be honest I would drop it and get the damage sorted when you can. It's not worth the risk of being caught for a couple of hundred quid. In the eyes of the law ignorance is no excuse. Put it down as experience. Thumbs Up

Good luck.

www.125power.com · Crazy Courier Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Karma :

glad your okay, what sort of damage did the bike take? might have a standard can layin around somehwere.....
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jonnay · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Karma :

Sorry to hear about the crash Sad

When I had mine and the old bill visited me, they never looked at my CBT certificate (not that there was anything wrong with it). A lot of coppers don't seem to know the rules regarding provisional licences, apart from the fact that you need to have L plates.

Good luck with the follow up..

Jon
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lllN30lll · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Karma :

your insurance will already have a copy of the CBT, normally you have to send them a copy when your insurance was started
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ali-b · Trackday Trickster Joined: 19 May 2005 Karma :

If it was totally his fault, then you can use a solicitor rather than your insurance company to recover damages if the third party won't co-operate. If the third party agrees, you can settle outside of insurance after getting quotes etc.

A.

[edit] oh yeah, and they always pull out without looking because they're morons who don't really give a toss and who only realise how much they can hurt someone using a car AFTER they've hit someone not in a car!!!

kenny · Nearly there... Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Karma :

a case of "sorry mate i didnt see you" rather sorry mate i didnt look
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TheBoyChris · Scooby Slapper Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Karma :

Thanks all - I'm going to try and settle outside of insurance anyhow since the damage is generally minor - just an indicator and some holes in the fairing and a bent brake lever really.

It's funny how it hits you later - I was fine an hour after it happened, now I'm all over the place heh

Thanks again all

Chris
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syl · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Karma :

syl · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Karma :

And get your CBT redone as quick as you can. Like tomorrow or at least this weekend. It might just get overlooked then, even if your insurance company asked for it, and it would certainly help with leniancy if you had to go to court.
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TheBoyChris · Scooby Slapper Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Karma :

I am doing - sorting it now. What a bugger... gods way of reminding me. Thankfully I didn't actually hit him so insurance is avoidable.

Thanks for all your advice guys, it's a real wake up call.
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

Kickstart in StHelens do a cbt for £70 with bike hire and everything included. If you use your own bike, i'm sure you could haggle a tenner off.

Jack
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Jack_Cheese · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Karma :

Cheap, effective, and full of good advice. They are seasoned riders, and one is an ex-police rider.

Jack

PS - get yourself on the spill counter
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lllN30lll · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Karma :

when i read the title of Why do they always pull out before looking?

i thought it was gonna be something to do with the withdrawal method Laughing

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Chriss · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 May 2005 Karma :

Anyone here ever been requested for a copy of thier driving licence by a third party insurer? Doubt it.
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Chriss · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 May 2005 Karma :

Lots of speculation at work here. Wink

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DAF · Trackday Trickster Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Karma :

Good that you have witnesses; make sure you keep their details and even get them to put in writing what they saw.

Had a bad experience in the car a few years back where the other driver freely admitted respnsibility at the scene but changed his mind afterwards. I didn't have any witnesses and it was a long drawn out affair before his insurers eventually admitted liability.
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