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byke95 World Chat Champion
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Posted: 13:02 - 30 Mar 2006 Post subject: Should exotic pets be owned? |
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Going on from the centipede...
I think pets are great. There have been several species that, over the past few hundred years, we as humans have bread to be more than just animals. Domestic dogs, cats, rats, pigs etc. They reflect us as humans, possible a bit to much but they make good companions.
What I'm not so keen on the more exotic pets, I always cringe when:
I see a bird in a cage, the symbolism is just to much.
A chinchilla in a pet shop (with a sign saying 'lives in the rain forest, likes to jump from tree to tree')
A reptile in a tank being reduced to eating defrosted prey or, at best, having to make no effort in order to hunt it's food despite it's brilliant evolution. Again, a sad reflection on us as humans.
I do understand the attraction of such animals, they are brilliant and highly evolved species, but if you like them (like me), why reduce them to an existence unfitting of their skills?
In other words, do you own 'exotic' pets and what made you deceide on such a pet? Maybe you breed them and use them for an income? Do you even think this is an issue, maybe any human has the right to own whatever he/she wants? |
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Posted: 13:29 - 30 Mar 2006 Post subject: |
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Humans kick ass and we are so clever I think it entitles us to anything.
A sweeping statement but the general view on the human race and unstoppable destruction we carry out every day, TBH who gives a toss, my lizard was born over here in a bloody incubator, he doesn’t know what the desert is, he doesn’t know what a bird of prey is (lucky him) and quite frankly with the attention he gets from me he is going to live longer at my House than his cousins in OZ and wherever they hang out.
No one needs a pet, unless you call guide dogs pets, I just think they are tools.
You are the most self aware animal on the planet, unfortunately because of this some of us are afraid of everything and our conscience battles with everything we see, what’s right, what’s wrong and why do we do that…..
IMO we are just doing what we always have done, try to find a way to control something, everything on and off of this planet humans want to control, think about that for a second………..anything, water, fire, cars, planes, the weather.
If we achieve control of it we are happy.
Keeping a pet is quite weird especially an exotic but as well as the human control element there, it can also be good for your mental state which in this day an age is screwed by a whole range of dick eds about you who try and control you.
I’m going to get my lizard to eat the head of grass hopper later and film it. ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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Posted: 13:32 - 30 Mar 2006 Post subject: |
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Q. Should exotic pets be owned?
A. No. They should be pwned.
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craigie b Citizen Smith
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I can understand and appreciate why people keep domesticated animals. Cats and dogs are excellent as companions and they do become family members. I do think keeping exotic pets is kind of cruel since they are born into captivity merely for others amusement and I cannot see how a tarantula could ever become a friggin' family member.
However it is a free country and some people just like to have freaky fucking things around them |
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Tigers...... A question on QI a few months back, was "Which continent contains the largest number of tigers?".
I've asked a lot of my friends this since, and EVERYONE says Africa, then Asia. Sad answer is America. There are more tigers in captivity, as "domestic" pets in America, than there are in the rest of the world combined. There's something stupid like 5,000 of them in one southern state alone (pet tigers are more popular in the south, they are a status symbol).
This depresses me a lot. The only thing that cheers me even slightly, is the thought of a lot of Americans being eventually mauled to death.
craigie b wrote: | I do think keeping exotic pets is kind of cruel since they are born into captivity merely for others amusement |
There's no real difference between cats and dogs in that respect. Most of them are bred to meet demand for the market. there wouldn't be a massive population of dogs and cats roaming wild if we didn't want them.
To be honest, I'd never have thought of a lizard as being a decent pet. Since meeting someone with a salamander, and also reading killa's bearded dragon posts, I've started to see how they can be. They're a lot more interactive than I thought. I have another mate who's had a tarrantula for about 6 months now though, and I've yet to even see the thing move. Insects are probably where I still draw the line at pet choices. ____________________ - Yeah, you know the type, loud as a motorbike, wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight.
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Posted: 20:13 - 30 Mar 2006 Post subject: Re: Should exotic pets be owned? |
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byke95 wrote: | Going on from the centipede...
I think pets are great. There have been several species that, over the past few hundred years, we as humans have bread to be more than just animals. Domestic dogs, cats, rats, pigs etc. They reflect us as humans, possible a bit to much but they make good companions.
What I'm not so keen on the more exotic pets, I always cringe when:
I see a bird in a cage, the symbolism is just to much.
A chinchilla in a pet shop (with a sign saying 'lives in the rain forest, likes to jump from tree to tree')
A reptile in a tank being reduced to eating defrosted prey or, at best, having to make no effort in order to hunt it's food despite it's brilliant evolution. Again, a sad reflection on us as humans.
I do understand the attraction of such animals, they are brilliant and highly evolved species, but if you like them (like me), why reduce them to an existence unfitting of their skills?
In other words, do you own 'exotic' pets and what made you deceide on such a pet? Maybe you breed them and use them for an income? Do you even think this is an issue, maybe any human has the right to own whatever he/she wants? |
I understand and agree in part with what you're saying. But as an exotic pet keeper myself, I would say that in most cases, the animals are kept in a better state of health and in better suited environments than they do in their natural habitats.
The reason for this, is that exotic pet keepers are generally disliked by the RSPCA and they themselves do a lot of injustice both against keepers and shops to try and make it illegal to keep these animals. As a result, many people take it on themselves to 'rise above' the petty complaints and quibbles placed upon them by such official organisations.
I do sometimes wonder why people can keep so many pets - exotic pets by their very nature require very specific needs both in feeding and in maintaining health, all of which takes time. Having lots of animals just for the sake of it is a bad thing, I think.
I myself, dont consider myself to be a hobbyist (i.e. they're not members of the family) but rather a conservationist. Most of my animals are either extinct in the wild, or indeed on the verge of being extinct.
Yes I do breed them, mainly on the basis to ensure that the species survives just that little bit longer. Of course, I do sell them, and yes if you look at the bare bones of it, you could argue that I make money. However, when you take into account the time, the food, the equipment, the utilities (24hour electrical supply aint cheap!), the vet bills (each trip can cost anywhere from £100 upwards), you soon realise that there isnt money to be made!
So while I agree, it is demeaning to the animals to have them be fed on defrosted crap, surely its better than being ill through ticks/mites/viral infections, run over by cars, habitat destroyed by over enthusiastic farming, or made extinct, by man?
Its not great, but it is the lesser of two evils im afraid. |
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I have kept lizards and a snake. They are a f*cking nightmare to keep properly. Reading books and having the right equipment isn't always enough. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 54 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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