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firefox
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about start off slow then just wack the throtle open in first Confused
or maybe just wack it open from taking off ? you should watch that superbike movie on how to wheelie i dont know the link sorry, there has been psots on here about it tho.

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PostPosted: 00:09 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6656191590638402466&q=superbike+wheelie&pl=true

Your bike too! Wink
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G
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Play with first to start with.
Just try a bit more/harder with first and you should could used to it fairly quickly.

Woudl have thought off the power at 5k in 2nd would be asking a bit much for a 600, even a modern one.
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really shouldn't need to 'clutch' nor 'back off then back on again' a 600+cc bike into a wheelie. It should lift quite happily in first by just rolling gently foward and then going to full throttle fairly sharply. As soon as the revs hit the powerband the front will lift. Keep the throttle pinned and you will eventually flip right over, also first gear is too sensitive between engine braking and lifting. So the trick is to get into second gear as soon as possible/comforable. You don't need to pull your clutch in to do this - it will (usually Neutral ) clutchless shift.
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just practice mate. And try first instead of second Wink
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PostPosted: 01:43 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had major troubles on a CBR600RR. Found it was easier after having a mate on the back because I got used to the front coming up easily and so it was less dramatic when I was on my own on the bike.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to snap it in first. 600's are quite difficult to power wheelie in second.

Get to about 7-9k revs then roll off and snap it on, dont snap it back just to a set position then it will hold the wheel up and the revs will increase gradually until you need to change gear.

If it starts to come up too fast very very gently roll off a bit. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Yes im currently lerning wheelies again on the SV, im getting comfortable with the front comming up and holding it for a few seconds. I just snap the throttle roll off a bit and then roll on a bit more to keep it up.

You just have to practis and get used to the front comming up.

No proper mingers yet, but deffo some "show off" potential to people who dont know wheelies Very Happy

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PostPosted: 11:08 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont be a pussy wack it open.... Wink
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

LukeVFR wrote:
I found 600's so easy to wheelie after wheelieing my 400. Confused



whats the best way to get your 400 up....?
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hardest part is relaxing enough so that your sitting back and not hunching over the handlebars.

I thought i was leaniing back at first and then someone tool some pictures of me and i was actually subconsciously hunching over the front. Once i leant back she floated up with ease. These thou's can get a bit viscious though!!
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, there seems to be a lot of talk about just using the engines power to get the front up. Nothing said so far about your body positioning on the bike. A bike like a zxr400 which is extremely front heavy, will refuse to wheely even if you dump the clutch at 14k with standard gearing. However if you are to stand up on the pegs lean right back tugging on the bars then drop the clutch at around 8k, if your not careful you will flip the bike completely.
Try on your 600, just standing up on the pegs and leaning back over the pillion seat, getting more weight over the back wheel and making the front lighter. I start all my wheelies on any bike I wheelie standing as it brings the front up so much easier, puts less stress on the engine and you can find the balancing point a lot easier.
Try it but take it easy, and make sure your back brake is covered as it may take you by supprise how much easier it comes up, Thumbs Up Dan
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leaning back/standing up with weight back definitely does help, but a new 600 will probably still come up off the power in first if you're leaning right forwards!
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoko, i'm sure Sparks'll be along any minute to put me to shame but i'll have a stab at it.

First time i rented the RR i tried a power wheelie just round the corner of the rental shop, wasn't much of a wheelie but i had a basic idea of what to do.

Arrow Find a nice level, straight empty road
Arrow Cruise along in first gear, gently accelerating to about 9 K revs
Arrow Now shut the throttle for about a second and throw it back open to about half way
Arrow The front end should lift up for about 4 seconds before running out of puff (assuming you keep the throttle constant)
Arrow DO NOT turn the handle bars in any direction, keep them as straight as humanely possible. Twisting the bars will result in a tank slapper when you land and possibly stacking it.
Arrow Each time gently apply more throttle as you feel the front end going down and you'll get it going for longer and higher.
Arrow You're at the end of the rev range in 1st now, shift into second Wink

Good luck mate Razz
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leaning back/standing up with weight back definitely does help, but a new 600 will probably still come up off the power in first if you're leaning right forwards!


Hmmmm not sure about that, i can get my ZX10R to keep the front wheel on the floor if i lean right over the front.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark wrote:

Hmmmm not sure about that, i can get my ZX10R to keep the front wheel on the floor if i lean right over the front.

Is your right hand broken Confused.

Drag racing my 2001 ZX6 I still had wheely problems with the weight over the front.
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Dark
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is your right hand broken .


Actually now that i think about it, the rear wheel is spinning Razz
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

f*ck thats a nice wheely for a 400 fella Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on riichy this guys even got the same colour bike as you. Get that front end up, Thumbs Up Very Happy Dan
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a Fireblade.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sitting at back of seat isnt actually a good thing. More weight over the back means the bike will be more fidgity and in less control. A 600 has plenty of power to get the front up with you sat on the front fender let alone on the seat... Sit comfortably, grip tank a bit with your knees and don't worry too much about sitting back.... leaning back however is a bit different and you definetly want to keep a comfy slightly bent arms length from the bike, dont hug the tank or anything...

Use 1st and clutch it up, it's more controlled and more predictable.. Just keep practicing and you'll soon get hang of it.... 2nd on a 600 needs a bit of help, bike usually needs a bit of a bounce when standing let alone sitting but it depends on your gearing and speed etc...
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Buy a Fireblade.

Riding an older fireblade (pre 98) and a newer 600, I'd say the newer 600s are a load easier to wheelie for the novice.

A while ago a mate who had an early blade got on Dusty's (stock at the time) 99 R6 and came back going on how about how good it was to wheelie compared to his bike.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
sickpup wrote:
Buy a Fireblade.

Riding an older fireblade (pre 98) and a newer 600, I'd say the newer 600s are a load easier to wheelie for the novice.


Quite right, altho the old blades are good stunt bikes, the 636 b1 is quite possibly the easiest sport bike to wheely ever.. they're meant to be really good for circles too....
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 20 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

Riding an older fireblade (pre 98) and a newer 600, I'd say the newer 600s are a load easier to wheelie for the novice.

A while ago a mate who had an early blade got on Dusty's (stock at the time) 99 R6 and came back going on how about how good it was to wheelie compared to his bike.


Complete opposite for me. Due to weight and size an early R6 becomes a small low powered tourer that I sit completely upright on and struggles to wheelie without the clutch whereas my 96 Blade is easy to lift and control on the throttle.
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