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JodieWodie
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 01 Jul 2006    Post subject: Broken down..UPDATE..What exactly is AA Relay ? Reply with quote

We are not having much luck with bikes lately Sad
Mine failed it's ruddy MOT and is gonna cost money we don't have, and OH called me earlier to say that HIS Firestorm has broken down and the AA can't get to him until ELEVEN pm!
Basically, he had a bug in his lid...stopped, bike still running, then the bike suddenly started making a "God Damned awful banging sound in the engine"... so he turned it off straight away

Any experts know if this sounds bad ?

The rate this is costing us we will have to both get pushbikes Shocked

Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: 21:25 - 01 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bad luck with the stupid MOT failure, shame anout the engine noise, may be bad as the only noise an engine should make is the vroom vroooooooom.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 01 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have a bike , he has a bike? , er why not tow him back with your bike/car? ,

if you have rope hold onto it rather than strap it on something,

if you don't a security chain does nicely,

if you don't have either you can give him a sort of a push by riding and putting your hand on his back, or you right foot (since you don't need the back much) on the rear lights,

I towed a fireblade in the middle of Cornwall back to Truro this way , until I realised I had me security chain with me.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 01 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't sound good. Possibly a dropped valve or something, who can say.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 01 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all

What a fuggin joke the AA are... Surprised Mad
OH called them about 8.30 pm. About 11 pm a bloke called him back saying "I can't find you..where are you"?
"I am here at the Hollybush Pub, like I said"
"I am here too... Hollybush Pub, E17 ..."
"Erm, no.. LE17 ...!

Shocked

So they have sent a bloke to London E17 for him.
OH said that when he called the AA initially someone on the other end looked up the postcode (which had been repeated a few times) and said he couldn't see where he was, but then eventually FOUND the pub he was at !

So looks like he won't be home until about 1am

Nice LITTLE spin on the bike that was for him
Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So..he is on the way home...
All the bloke did was load the bike into a van and bring it back
We were under the impression that all the money we pay to the AA was for them to *try* and fix the bike, if it can't be fixed THEN they would bring it back

Wrong ?
Confused

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PostPosted: 00:16 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

JodieWodie wrote:
So..he is on the way home...
All the bloke did was load the bike into a van and bring it back
We were under the impression that all the money we pay to the AA was for them to *try* and fix the bike, if it can't be fixed THEN they would bring it back

Wrong ?
Confused

Jo x


The AA don't know anything about bikes or bike engines, so I'd rather let them leave it. They make enough mistakes when recovering bikes...
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
JodieWodie wrote:
So..he is on the way home...
All the bloke did was load the bike into a van and bring it back
We were under the impression that all the money we pay to the AA was for them to *try* and fix the bike, if it can't be fixed THEN they would bring it back

Wrong ?
Confused

Jo x


The AA don't know anything about bikes or bike engines, so I'd rather let them leave it. They make enough mistakes when recovering bikes...


Ahh..ok

It's just, I had a hire bike once and it broke down, and the AA were out within 30 minutes, fixed the bike..bosh bosh, job's a good 'un !!
I thought they knew what they were doing and you paid a LOT of money for them to help you fix a problem

Oh well..he is home soon, and thats enough

Cheers !
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont your/his insurance cover breakdowns?

i assume not but id recommend it as its saved my arse a few times & it cost NOTHING Thumbs Up


UNLESS YOUR NOT INSURED!! Shocked


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PostPosted: 08:53 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought you paid lots of money to the AA so they could sit and have a nice long tea brake or something - as most of the times my mum has used them, they have been very slow - including not arriving until late the next day in one case!

Thus, I don't use - company I go for doesn't claim to try and fix it, which they generally don't and I'm happy with, as if it can be fixed by the side of the road, probability is I've already done it.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

AA mechanics are mostly time served car mechanics and know next to nothing about bikes, they will therefore relay you home or to a place of your choice.

I however have stopped using them as they do not attend in the event of an accident, only breakdowns. I am now with greenline.
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jodie, I have breakdown cover inc with my insurance, it may be worth changing your insurance too to have this facility, as you have sadly found out you just never know when you might need it. Good luck with ya bikes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonyyzf wrote:
AA mechanics are mostly time served car mechanics and know next to nothing about bikes,



don't worry they know next to nothing about cars either

as a fully trained vehicle tech myself and having lenty of AA guys bring vehicles in for repair it seems most of their time served was 20 years ago as not many of them know naff all about modern cars let alone bikes.

Only last week an AA truck turned up with a vehicle on the back, they had spent 1hr20mins at the side of the road pondering why the car had seemingly run out of fuel, it took one of my techs 30 seconds to figure out the fuel cut-off accident switch had been tripped and just needed resetting.....

I would never let an AA man under my bonnet let alone work on my bike.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The AA don't know anything about bikes or bike engines, so I'd rather let them leave it. They make enough mistakes when recovering bikes...


I would have to strongly disagree with above comment.

I have AA cover so it covers me on bike and car and it gives me cover in the republic as standard (don't have to take out european cover or owt).

Anyway mine broke down the excelerator went slack (I didn't know at the time it was the cable). The AA came out within 40 minutes, the bloke who came was a biker, inside his van he had enough cable to make a temporary speedo cable. The service was brilliant.

I am now covered twice as I have ebike and AA(still needed for car).
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
as if it can be fixed by the side of the road, probability is I've already done it.


Agreed, Although I would like to see an AA patrol that rebore the cylinders on my NSR250 at the side of the road, now that would be impressive. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mondeokid wrote:
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The AA don't know anything about bikes or bike engines, so I'd rather let them leave it. They make enough mistakes when recovering bikes...


I would have to strongly disagree with above comment.

I have AA cover so it covers me on bike and car and it gives me cover in the republic as standard (don't have to take out european cover or owt).

Anyway mine broke down the excelerator went slack (I didn't know at the time it was the cable). The AA came out within 40 minutes, the bloke who came was a biker, inside his van he had enough cable to make a temporary speedo cable. The service was brilliant.

I am now covered twice as I have ebike and AA(still needed for car).


Naah, thats one experience that you have had. And anyone can fix a throttle cable IMO.

The AA people I have had experience with are all car oriented and wouldn't know the first thing about bikes. Particularly if the engine is making a knocking noise. I think that you were just rather lucky.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

JodieWodie wrote:
So..he is on the way home...
All the bloke did was load the bike into a van and bring it back
We were under the impression that all the money we pay to the AA was for them to *try* and fix the bike, if it can't be fixed THEN they would bring it back

Wrong ?
Confused

Jo x



Jo, as someone who subcontracts for the AA, going from the description of the fault, we would`ve sent out a recovery vehicle straight away too.

Yes, we could send out a service van that may/may not fix it, however if it can't be repaired you then have to wait all over again for a recovery truck.

We look at each individual job as it comes in and designate a vehicle suited to it depending on what the fault description is and whether we're likely to fix it.

At midnight, you're not going to be able to source any parts, so that limits the possibilities of repair. And lets be honest, "banging from the engine" doesn't sound particuarly good! Laughing

Yes, there are problems with this. We're aware of that. However having to wait for an hour for a service van who turns up, can't fix it and then puts it back to the ops centre for recovery, which could take another 90 minutes, generally isn't apprciated by most people!
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 02 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That "noise" sounds VERY much like the age old storm problem - CCTs.

The CCT's can randomly go in the storm (cam chain tensioner) and its a right pain in the arse, it can bend valves, ruin shims and even screw the piston (if the valve bottom hits it).

I would advise he doesnt start or touch the bike till a Honda Mecanic can have a look at it, because if he runs it while the CCT's are buggered it could well make things worse!

Tell him to goto: www.vtr1000.org and click the forum link. Theres reams of info there about the CCT problems, what to look for and how to solve them!

Hope this is of some help!

(might also want to praise his choice of bike- i love storms)
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