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sunbear
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: BMW F650 rear brake Reply with quote

I am getting a "strange" feedback through the rear brake pedal. Wasnt there when i first got the bike a few weeks ago. When i press my foot down i get what i can only describe as little bumps coming through it. Like a slow vibration maybe. Its enough to move my foot a little. Brake pad is fine, as is the disc (no warping, grooves or lip). Any ideas? Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a warped disc but as you say its not that, does the pedal touch anything when you push it down??
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are sure about the pads/disk, you need to investigate if the whole caliper or wheel is moving -

wheel bearings
caliper mounts
whatever is stopping the caliper from whizzing around the wheel when you brake (usually a reaction arm of some type)

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PostPosted: 10:54 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, the pedal doesnt touch anything on the bike/frame when pressed. I was thinking maybe the bearings . How do i check these ? Im not mechanically minded ! Razz
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has it got ABS fitted?
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a F650CS? If so there was a recall for the rear caliper - click here for info. Has this work been done?

Could be the caliper moving, although I would doubt it. Just a thought.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No mate. Mine is a 1996 bike so wouldnt apply to that . Thanks though Thumbs Up Anything else?
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

To check the bearings...You need the back wheel off the ground and grab the wheel at 3 & 9 o'clock positions and try to wobble it. If the bearings are shot there will be play in them. Also mve the wheel slowly round and as you are doing it feel for 'grittyness' in the movement, that indicates they are on the way out.

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PostPosted: 16:58 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right will try that when i get home Thumbs Up Cheers
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheel bearings seem absolutely fine.

I have took some pics of what i think maybe causing it. Im probably wrong but here they are. Behind the frame there is a round thing covered in grease that is connected to the brake lever and the chain seems to run over it. Im thinking the chain may need adjusting, but to be honest it only has about one and a half inch play. Any ideas? Could this be causing it ?
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have links which are rusted up. see how that one isnt in line with the others

this may be why you get little bumps
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem sorted. Tightened the chain a bit and lubed it, the vibes have stopped. Will be getting a new chain asap . Cheers for replies Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 08 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunbear wrote:
Problem sorted. Tightened the chain a bit and lubed it, the vibes have stopped. Will be getting a new chain asap . Cheers for replies Thumbs Up


Don't forget to replace the sprockets also. Wink
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