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virus
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Clutch not working? FIXED Got a few other problems though Reply with quote

OK, the clutch worked fine, needed some ajustment as the biting point was on the edge of my grip but thats solved.

Arrow which chains from busters (out of the 125cc 420 i think it is variety) have split links?
Arrow were can i get a centre stand for an '85 cg on the cheap? discovered today that mines been broken and welded back in the wrong place, thats why its a git to use.
Arrow how hard is it to remove 2 links from my chain to get the ajustment right, its already loose and its at full adjustment so my CBT instructor suggested taking 2 links out.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: Clutch not working? need it fixed ASAP Reply with quote

Lube the chain turning the wheel by hand.

It probably just needs riding.

Maybe the clutch has seized slightly.

Clutches will turn the wheel a bit when there's no force on the rear wheel anyway due to the movement of the oil.

Start the bike sat on it, ready to ride.
When you knock it into first make sure you hold the front brake on.
My CRM did this when it hadn't been used for a while. I had to rev it a bit while holding the front brake on while dropping it into first to stop it stalling.
However once I'd done that and ridden it up and down the road a couple of times it worked fine.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers G, ill give that a go later Thumbs Up
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stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance.
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rear wheel usually rotates slowly when you let the clutch out in gear. Perhaps adjusting the clutch lever to seperate the plates a bit more will stop it.

In any case if you sit on the bike and the forward drive isnt strong enough to actually "pull" forwards then I wouldn't worry about it - I'd dismiss it as normal.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep i agree with loply, the wheel will turn on the centerstand if its in gear it gets a bit of friction through the plates, as long as it rides find and clutch works with you on it then no worries Very Happy
good luck with the test Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't want to be lubing the chain with the engine on and the wheel turning in the first place. That chain will not stop for something like a finger. Remember a chainsaw is only 25cc yet try stopping that with your hand.... your chain is attached to 125cc Shocked

I can't remember the link off hand but there is a site somewhere showing in detail what can happen to a hand if you get it caught in the chain/sprockets. Does anyone have it?

ALWAY turn the wheel by hand with the engine off, it may take longer but it's a good deal safer. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i get a better coverage of chain lube if i turn it by hand i was just reving it to get any exess chain lube off. anyway i went outside earlier and the clutch is working fine when the wheels are on the ground. cheers for all the help. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
You don't want to be lubing the chain with the engine on and the wheel turning in the first place. That chain will not stop for something like a finger.


If you have a tube in the end of the spray nozzle, your hand shouldn't be anywhere near the chain anyway. If you do the job with a modicum of respect for the machinery, you won't have a problem.*



* edit. If you are an anal retentive safety nazi, then don't do this, no siree.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
extreme3d wrote:
You don't want to be lubing the chain with the engine on and the wheel turning in the first place. That chain will not stop for something like a finger.


If you have a tube in the end of the spray nozzle, your hand shouldn't be anywhere near the chain anyway. If you do the job with a modicum of respect for the machinery, you won't have a problem.


Agree. I lube the chain with like a 9-inch tube attatched to a bottle that's about 8 inches long - All in all my hand is nowhere near the chain.

So long as you maintain that vigilence it shouldn't be a problem.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

clutch is working fine now the biting point has been adjusted Smile

anyone got any ideas on my other problems though?

cheers
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not reccomended to take chain links out to make up for a stretched chain. If your chain is that stretched, it need replacing.

I expect pretty much all 420 size chains will have split links.

Do you need a centre stand? I knackered the one on my cg and just took it off.
If you really need one, ebay and breakers.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah as soon as I can afford it im getting a new chain and sprocket set for it, priority is the anoyyingly temramental light switchgear at the moment. Id rather have a centrestand than not, its working and it is quite useful, I prefer it over the sidestand as it holds the bike more secure, I feel more comfortable lying underneath it to change the oil with it on the centrestand.

of to ebay i go Thumbs Up
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