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Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

I think "Pulse Corn" did a system too Laughing

Those crazy nips!
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CHR15 · Turbo nutter bastard Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Karma :

new rear disk and pads fitted. still need to bleed the brake. stripped the calliper as well, was full of aluminium fur and shit, needs a complete rebuild in the future, if i dont fit a different calliper.

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flip the rear pegs and you can sit the bike on axle stands if you dont happen to have a rear paddock stand.

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also, anyone know if theres supposed to be a mesh in the lhs of the nose cone?

right:

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left

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Nope. · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Feb 2011 Karma :

Same with the mesh on mine. Always thought I had some missing, guess thats just how its supposed to be.
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CHR15 · Turbo nutter bastard Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Karma :

well, today started off good, then went rapidly down hill.

i passed my car test. yaay.

then lots of stuff in suzuki bags arrived. also yaay.

then i took the sump off and it was full of copper slivers and rtv. not so yaay.

so, looks like the engines gonna need a complete rebuild over winter. i just hope suzuki still make all the shell bearings.

also, theres pitting on one of the gears on the output shaft.

thing is, it sounded okay when i fired it up last week...

think i'm gonna buy breakdown cover lol.

only thing i've managed to do today is foil the tank:

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guess you cant own a 24 year old sports bike and not expect it to be a bit shagged.
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chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

RE the discs, before you write then off put a bolt though the bobbin and tighten it up should close and tighten it up.
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CHR15 · Turbo nutter bastard Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Karma :

there not loose in that direction, if you grab hold of them from side on, you can rotate them clockwise / counter clockwise by almost 25mm from extreme to extreme.
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Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

Chris, pretend you never had the sump off, give it a good service and thrash the bollocks off it. It's not made of fine bone china like a ZXR, they can take serious abuse.
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

inb4 my engine died lol thread Laughing

He has a point though, if it runs and goes well... shows good compression and gives you the buzz... Thumbs Up

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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

if the shells are shagged then surely the crank will be too? I thought you couldn't put new shells on an old crank which had been run with bad shells?
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Tim.. · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Karma :

All depends on if there is any damage to the crank.

i've seen cranks polish up fine, but I would pastigauge them up to make sure they are still within tolerence. Different shells may be needed.
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CHR15 · Turbo nutter bastard Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Karma :

Only gasket I may need is a sump one which is £10.73 iirc.

Can split the bottom end without taking the top off.
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orac · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Sep 2011 Karma :

chances are you got it cheap because the seller knew it had issues.

also my gues would be it only needs mains and the big ends are fine. you should be able to do the mains without removing the crank, you may need to remove the cam chain tensioner to allow for a little extra play
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CHR15 · Turbo nutter bastard Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Karma :

How can I do the mains without removing the crank? Lol
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orac · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Sep 2011 Karma :

you dont have to unbolt the big ends, removing the the cam chain tensioner should give enough free play for the old bearings to "rotate" out and the new one rotoate in. that how i did the main on the 400 bandit which has a near idendticle engine.

you still have to split the bottom end. maybe i wasnt clear, you dont have to undo the conrod bolts. pretty sure your 1200 has a similar setup in regards to bottom end. - heck i have seen v8s done without the crank being removed.

this will mean no new bolts, you shouldn't need big and bearings - so all you need is the mains.

but please remeber the critical step is to remove the cam chain tensioner, this allow the crank to be unseated but not removed while still attatched to the pistons.

if you are insistant on doing it by the book do an entire re-build replacing the cam chain while your there
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CHR15 · Turbo nutter bastard Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Karma :

if its coming to bits, its gonna be done proper.

i'll have the crank checked for straightness, get the rods balanced end to end, and to the crank and weight match the pistons.

for the sake of 200 quid its false economy not to replace all the bearings and rod bolts.
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orac · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Sep 2011 Karma :

i take you you either get more trade discount than me on suzuki parts, or your not going genuine - the last time i ordered bearing shells, it was nearly 160 quid just for main alone.

full gasket set should be around £100, then if we say £200 for mains, big end, all new bolts (main bearing bolts should be replaced once removed) new gearbox bearings (just as well why you are there), then around £50 for a new timing chain plus the cost of having things balanced.

then if we presume that you going to do valve stem seals and giuds too - jsut as well seeing as its all coming apart, 16 at around £2.30 each for the seals, then the wait for delivery from japan for anything that isnt in the UK or even europe.

oh and nearly forget the stupid money suzuki want for the gearbox seals - specialy the one that like to leak - you know the one with the clutch push rod that run through it. all in all its gonna be more like 400-500 quid to do it all if that the way you want to go.

if i had the sort of money that you have been spending on bike, i would chuck the thing back together and sell it to some other sucker - heck if i had 500 quid to spend on a bike, with a little return on my current machine (which is next to worthless atm) i wold by buying another machine instead of taking the risk of an unknown engine.

but that i said, i would split the bottom end before making a final desicion, the the crank looks OK, then chuck some new bearing shells in, check the oil way chuck it back together and thrash within an inch of its life - then start a fresh
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

'85 GSXR750 is £850 a pop for mains, £11-ish for big ends, genuine parts. Can't find prices for this bike but I know that a full set of both for a 'busa was less than £200 last time I bought.

Rod bolts I would re-use. There should be a stretch figure for installing them, I guess you could find that out and stick a MIC across them. I'd just re-use them anyway, and make sure you sue anti-seize under the head if you're doing them up to a particular torque.
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Ichy · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

Probably a few months off but you know where to ask if you need anything measured. Now you have a car licence you have no excuse Laughing

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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

I'm not sure if I'm upset you have a car licence...or these tears are from the thoughts of this supreme turbo kit car you are going to build Wink

orac · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Sep 2011 Karma :

well that down to you then.

how ever i have some gear boxes here if you can give teeth numbers and a outside diameter then i can see if you can use a gear from another one of suzuki 400s
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