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Lancaster eh?,
theres two nearish places near me,
Tony Salt , TST tyres near babyyam
Sharples (Bolton)
you can play them off against each other, just like insurance
I went into sharples and said what can ya do me for BT45s ? £190 , no wayy Salty can do BT45s for £170 (he actually quoted £180) , he said oh you know salty eh? hows that B****** , (I don't know him at all) he then gave me £161 ride in ride out. I then went back to Tony Salt (I had to go to Cheshire anyway so it wasn't a trip just for that) , who then said £155, then back to Sharples who then said £151.
whenever I go to any other shops in North Mancs they call sharples,
Whenever I go to any other shops in South Mancs they call Tony Salt
I asked them what about loose wheels and it was about £7 per wheel difference. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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ok, now I'm confused
Hornet owners report up to 9000 miles from a rear avon azaro st. Still I guess it depends how you ride. But I bought Ride just today because I saw they had a tyre feature and they claim good life from azaro's and good grip in the wet.
Ride also says michelin pilot roads offer good grip, yet I've heard that they're rubbish and dont get hot enough (this might not be such an issue for me in france). 200 quid for a pair fitted, is this a good deal?
Tempted by dunlops now, just because I haven't heard such worryingly conflicting opinions. Nobody has anything bad to say about the D208's do they?
itchy- I need to update my profile. Was in Lancaster up until 2 weeks ago, graduated and back in the North East now, near Darlington. Not for long though. ____________________ "he who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"- Dr. Johnson |
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 Posted: 14:04 - 30 Jun 2006 Post subject: Re: buying tyres |
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| G wrote: | Would you say you've got the BT010 or Viper controllably (or not?) to the limits of traction? |
I would say that for everyday road use, and a spirited ride on the twisties for pleasure, you cannot fault the Avon.
Pisses me off when people go on about things like the RRRRRR1000RRRRRR being 2% better than the latest GSXR1CBRRRR when they'll blatently never use more than 40% of its capability.
So, no, I've not used either tyre on the road to the limit of its ability, I think you'd be an idiot to do it.
So therefore, I don't think the "ooh, the avon is more slipery then anything else" comment is valid either, because on the road you're never going to reach a level where you'd notice it.
And if you do, you've probably not got the ability or experience to use it, and will just shit your pants and crash into a bush.
Avons are fine for the road, particularly the new Vipers.
I'll let you know next week if I find the limit of it's traction at Cadwell.  ____________________ <Simple> no I'm shaven Jon
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 Posted: 16:50 - 30 Jun 2006 Post subject: Re: buying tyres |
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I would say for everyday road use and what some people would consider 'spirited riding' (can't comment on your road riding as I've never seen you riding ) old Macadams would be fine - infact I've been on a ride out with other BCF members, including having to wait for some, with just that, similarly with unevenly worn continentals.
However, this doesn't mean I would reccomend them.
I generally do try and avoid going too stupid on the road, but I like to have a decent safety margin, should I do something stupid; intentionallly or not. For instance coming off a roundabout going onto a motorway in that 'spririted' fashion I had the arse of the TRX step out a bit as the shell grip was a bit broken up in places, as I have had in a few other situations, with an 010 on the rear. I'm pretty sure that had I still had my macadams on, I'd have been on my arse, but the 010s handled it fine. Oh and I didn't shit myself or crash into a bush, but there's always next time .
In the end, if you're satisfied with 'acceptable for general riding', pretty much any tyre will do .
While it's not something I'd do in everyday riding, I was able to get my knee down with 010s on a (fairly small) damp roundabout. Not useful in it's own right, but very useful to know should you sudddenly find a car cutting you up with apparantly no where to go at that speed. |
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| Itchy wrote: | Lancaster eh?,
theres two nearish places near me,
Tony Salt , TST tyres near babyyam
Sharples (Bolton)
you can play them off against each other, just like insurance
I went into sharples and said what can ya do me for BT45s ? £190 , no wayy Salty can do BT45s for £170 (he actually quoted £180) , he said oh you know salty eh? hows that B****** , (I don't know him at all) he then gave me £161 ride in ride out. I then went back to Tony Salt (I had to go to Cheshire anyway so it wasn't a trip just for that) , who then said £155, then back to Sharples who then said £151.
whenever I go to any other shops in North Mancs they call sharples,
Whenever I go to any other shops in South Mancs they call Tony Salt
I asked them what about loose wheels and it was about £7 per wheel difference. |
Thanks for the link.
TST quoted me £20-30 for a front depending on what I wanted and £30-40 for a rear.
Cheers Itchy. |
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 Posted: 21:22 - 08 Jul 2006 Post subject: Re: buying tyres |
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| G wrote: | Would you say you've got the BT010 or Viper controllably (or not?) to the limits of traction? |
Yes.
Coming out of 'Park' in session 3 of Thursday's trackday at Cadwell Park, I had the back end spinning up and sliding out quite considerably sideways. The fact that I controlled the slide is probably more luck than judgement, and certainly helped somewhat by my after-market steering damper. Thankfully I didn't complete the manouver with a spectacular high-side, and continued to finish the day without any further incidents.
In my first ever trackday, I set a time of 2:03 round Cadwell, which I'm quite proud of. Whilst the Avon tyres may not be the best on the market, they're certainly good enough for my current needs. However, I may try something a little more sticky for next time if I'm going to be pushing things any further.
If you're a novice/average road rider, or even if you do the odd trackday, providing you're not trying to set similar times to the BSB boys, you'll be fine on a set of Avon Vipers.
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The old Avon Azaro tyres where class, dunno if they still do that range but I had them on my first Ninja and thought they where excellent......much better than the Dunlop D207's that followed  ____________________ Old bikes >>> https://www.bikepics.com/members/cc123/ |
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brand new tyres just mean more scrubbing them in , while with 50 miles on them , thats just another 50 miles of running them in , ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 234 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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