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PostPosted: 22:34 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: How Fast are the DVLA Reg'ing? Reply with quote

Hay all,

just wondering if anyone knows how fast the DVLA are at registering new to the UK(but used) bikes?

Mines going in for its MOt tomorow, then details will get to the DVLA, but on direct.gov, one area mentioned taking 48-72 hours to Reg it, one stated up to six weeks ...

Could on be if u send off, the other if u go to a DVLA centre?

Its just im trying to be ready for the 6th i think it is, as there a group of bikers goinf from lands-end to john-oh-grots (if thats how you spell it) for charity and me and me mate thought we'd join them for a bit as there's a side group of learners doing it, or thats what im told Razz ...

It'll only be with 'em for a bit before i turn round n head home, but its cutting close and wondering how fast they are Razz ...

*Wonders if slipping in a £20 note will boost the speed Razz *



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PostPosted: 22:39 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

think monkeys and peanuts,

now shoot the monkeys inthe head , and remove the peanuts.
the surviving monkeys do the work...

thats the DVLA for you,
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
think monkeys and peanuts,

now shoot the monkeys inthe head , and remove the peanuts.
the surviving monkeys do the work...

thats the DVLA for you,



Hahaha ...

I need to find a way to get them to get a shift on with this, perhaps if i put a little letter in as well Razz ...

Or posibly going to a DVLA centre would help as they could also make sure i got all the paperwork correct and that i got everything ...



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PostPosted: 22:41 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It's the DVLA. They are a law to themselves.

Take the docs in and queue up. They will randomly decide if they want to inspect the bike, and if so they will send you an appointment for when you are to take it in to be inspected (and although you can ride an unregistered bike for an MOT you cannot ride it to the DVLA office for an inspection).

I have registered 2 imported bikes and 1 car. Only one of the bikes did they decide to inspect which added a few weeks to the process.

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PostPosted: 22:43 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

alien.46.uk wrote:
I need to find a way to get them to get a shift on with this, perhaps if i put a little letter in as well Razz ...


That would probably make them decide it was suspicious and so inspect it.

DVLA != Competance.

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PostPosted: 22:44 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When u say ride it without being Reg'd, mine doesn't have any plates, so can i ride it?


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PostPosted: 22:47 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

alien.46.uk wrote:
When u say ride it without being Reg'd, mine doesn't have any plates, so can i ride it?


To and from a pre arranged MOT (booked in on the chassis number), but you must be licenced for it and it must be insured.

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PostPosted: 22:48 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gottcha, it is booked in, not my chassis no though, by name, plus ive got me license, but as to insurance, i cant insure an unreg'd bike can i?
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It MUST be booked in on the chassis number, and you cannot register a bike unless it is insured. The insurance company will do this on the chassis number but only for a limited time (~1 month normally).

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PostPosted: 23:19 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

To register, i thought u didnt need to be insured, the insurence is needed for the Tax Disc and that can be got from the posty office with the Reg docs, insurence Cert ??? ... Thats what i think ive worked out as its difficult at 17 to work all this out as neither of me parents can really help ...

Hope you can shine some light on this as now you've really managed to confuze me and i thought i'd got it all worked out ... Sad


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PostPosted: 23:20 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, when u say must be booked in my Chassis No, when i rang up to book i made it clear it was prior to Reg'ing, but he didnt need any details there, so just said the time i wanted and that was that Sad
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

You cannot register a bike without it being insured. You get the tax disk when you register it (you pay for the tax disk and the first registration fee at the DVLA).

He has not taken the chassis number as he is not assuming you are riding it there.

It surprised me you can do it (and probably worth confirming you still can), but I was told you can by some friends who built kit cars, confirmed it with the MOT tester and a couple of coppers.

A bike must be MOTed to be used on the road but there is a specific exemption for travelling to and from the MOT station for a pre arranged MOT, which conventionally requires that the vehicle is booked in with the registration number (ie, police could walk into the MOT station and read the appointments book to see that A123BCD is due in). With no registration number the chassis number will have to do.

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PostPosted: 23:50 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:


It surprised me you can do it (and probably worth confirming you still can), but I was told you can by some friends who built kit cars, confirmed it with the MOT tester and a couple of coppers.



Supprised by what?

Also, i wish i knew that before as ive had to hire out a van to get it there, and i dought i can get insurence for it tomrow morning, before 10:00, lol ...

And ims ure you can Reg it without getting your Taz at the same time, so you dont need to insure it Sad , *goes to see if he can find the answer* ... Sorry to be a neusence and not beleive you 100%, but i was sure but no im questioning myself, lol, i thought about the insurence today when reading through some of the leaflets and forms etc ...
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it might be a pain, but could you describe what you did to Reg your bike, as im in panic mode if i dont have everything i need Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 21 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

You only need the insurance for tomorrow if you were to ride the bike there. Van hired so that isn't an issue.

99% certain that you cannot register a vehicle without it being insured, and I certainly had to be for the 3 vehicles I registered. The car was a doddle and they told me the registration number on the spot (picked up new plates on the way home) but then that was still Belgian registered. The bikes took longer as both were Italian imports and so deregistered, but only one was inspected.

Just took all the documents along to the local DVLA office and sat in a queue for ages with the relevant forms, handed them over along with a cheque.

Government site telling you what you need:-

https://www.direct.gov.uk/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicleArticles/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4022316&chk=fLP933

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PostPosted: 00:02 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Docs did you have?

As i dont have any Docs from the Previouse use or owner etc, all i have is the bike and the sales receipt and the letter stating the year of manufacture (Over 10yrs old, so only needing MOT, dont think ill need SVA or any others) ...

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PostPosted: 00:04 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had insurance, MOT and a certificate giving the age. Basically that was it (think I needed a receipt from the bod who imported it as well). Rules have changed, but are now more strict rather than more lax.

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PostPosted: 00:09 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yer, thats basically what i've got ... with two invoices from the Seller ...

I think then all i need now is to get it insured, then get myself to the DVLA centre, or if my parents wont take me, then post it off Sad (dont want to post as it'll take yonks, lol ... perhaps the offering of a car wash and making the dinner will suffice for a trip into Nottingham from the Burton area Razz ) ...

I wish i new i could of Ridden it if i had the insurence as it would of saved alot of hassle and the forking out of the van ...

Right o, so i'll have to organise some insurence and does it cost more to Insure it under a Chassis number only?

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PostPosted: 00:10 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah another DVLA thread. Laughing

When you Reg a bike in the UK you have to pay for 6 months road tax, the minimum. Yes you need insurance to register a vehicle.

You may not ride an unregistered vehicle to an MOT UNLESS it is registered in another country and you have the plates for that country on the bike. No plates = no riding to the MOT. The bike must also be insured.

The DVLA's attitude that you can't drive a vehicle registered on foreign plates to an inspection is very questionable especially if they are EU plates.

There is an old obscure Customs and excise law thats states no citizen of the UK may drive a vehicle registered in a foreign country on UK soil but this is very rarely enforced these days.

Incidently I found out 2 weeks ago that a friend put her bike in my name 2 years ago that I have stored for her for the last 5 years. I have never received a log book for the bike even though she has an acknowledgement letter from the DVLA. They are crap.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
You may not ride an unregistered vehicle to an MOT UNLESS it is registered in another country and you have the plates for that country on the bike. No plates = no riding to the MOT.


Not so sure on this. Checked it with several places and was told that I could (including a traffic plod neighbour who saw me ride it to the MOT test place with no plates at all on the bike).

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering, when u Reg'd your bikes, did they have plates or something that allowed them to be dereg'd in the country of origin, as mine doesn't have anything to doing with its past ...

As to getting there, it doesnt matter about riding it now, as i have a van for it, so i dont think ill be able to get insurence in the morning anyways, so that doesnt matter any more ...

Im just worried incase i dont have the right Docs, or if something is missing ...

Also, why are there never many people who have Reg'd imported bikes, or are you (Kickstart) the only one willing to lend your advice concerning Reg'ing lol ...

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BTW, been on that site many times and read through all the leaflets and booklets i have and nothing is in simple terms of what i need and what to do ... lol, so sorry for pestering you Razz, Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I understand it unregistered (anywhere) vehicles may not be ridden on the road unless on trade plates as no duty has been paid on them in the eyes of Customs and Excise.

If the vehicle for instance is registered in Italy and has been deregistered as long as the plates are retained it would be legal BUT if the plates are not retained there is no proof of duty paid.

To my knowledge EVERY vehicle must display a plate of some kind.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

alien.46.uk wrote:
Just wondering, when u Reg'd your bikes, did they have plates or something that allowed them to be dereg'd in the country of origin, as mine doesn't have anything to doing with its past ...


Nope, deregistered means no registration plates in Italy. They have to be returned.

alien.46.uk wrote:
Also, why are there never many people who have Reg'd imported bikes, or are you (Kickstart) the only one willing to lend your advice concerning Reg'ing lol ...


Not many people have registered imported bikes.

sickpup wrote:
As far as I understand it unregistered (anywhere) vehicles may not be ridden on the road unless on trade plates as no duty has been paid on them in the eyes of Customs and Excise.


The duty to be paid is presumeably VED (as VAT will have been paid), and the same applies to any bike where the tax has run out with an exemption for going for an MOT.

sickpup wrote:
If the vehicle for instance is registered in Italy and has been deregistered as long as the plates are retained it would be legal BUT if the plates are not retained there is no proof of duty paid.


Difficult to know. This doc refers to an exemption for driving an unregistered vehicle to an SVA test station.

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PostPosted: 00:51 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't done the reregistering business in 10 years so a lot of it probably has changed as you say.

I do need to reregister my Landrover which is on a Q plate to an age related plate but that will be a problem as well.

DVLA say I need to get it MOT'd and then take it to a DVLA centre where they will give it and the paperwork a quick look over and then issue a new No. plate on the spot for it.

Until I have the new plates fitted it will be illegal to drive on the road as the original plates will no longer be valid. DVLA don't supply plates. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 22 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Until I have the new plates fitted it will be illegal to drive on the road as the original plates will no longer be valid. DVLA don't supply plates. Rolling Eyes


When I registered the imported car I drove it to the DVLA to hand the paperwork in and they issued the plate on the spot. Then I drove to a Halfords and bought some plates. Then I got pulled up in a random drink drive road block, with Belgian plates front and back, UK tax disk in the window and UK plates on the back seat Laughing . First copper walked up to the right hand door, realised there was no steering wheel on that side and had a distinct "doh" moment. Next one walked up to the left hand door and asked if I spoke English.

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