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 Posted: 22:34 - 21 Jul 2006 Post subject: How Fast are the DVLA Reg'ing? |
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Hay all,
just wondering if anyone knows how fast the DVLA are at registering new to the UK(but used) bikes?
Mines going in for its MOt tomorow, then details will get to the DVLA, but on direct.gov, one area mentioned taking 48-72 hours to Reg it, one stated up to six weeks ...
Could on be if u send off, the other if u go to a DVLA centre?
Its just im trying to be ready for the 6th i think it is, as there a group of bikers goinf from lands-end to john-oh-grots (if thats how you spell it) for charity and me and me mate thought we'd join them for a bit as there's a side group of learners doing it, or thats what im told ...
It'll only be with 'em for a bit before i turn round n head home, but its cutting close and wondering how fast they are ...
*Wonders if slipping in a £20 note will boost the speed *
Luke.
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think monkeys and peanuts,
now shoot the monkeys inthe head , and remove the peanuts.
the surviving monkeys do the work...
thats the DVLA for you, ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Hi
It's the DVLA. They are a law to themselves.
Take the docs in and queue up. They will randomly decide if they want to inspect the bike, and if so they will send you an appointment for when you are to take it in to be inspected (and although you can ride an unregistered bike for an MOT you cannot ride it to the DVLA office for an inspection).
I have registered 2 imported bikes and 1 car. Only one of the bikes did they decide to inspect which added a few weeks to the process.
All the best
Keith ____________________ Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing |
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When u say ride it without being Reg'd, mine doesn't have any plates, so can i ride it?
Luke.
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To register, i thought u didnt need to be insured, the insurence is needed for the Tax Disc and that can be got from the posty office with the Reg docs, insurence Cert ??? ... Thats what i think ive worked out as its difficult at 17 to work all this out as neither of me parents can really help ...
Hope you can shine some light on this as now you've really managed to confuze me and i thought i'd got it all worked out ...
Luke.
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Also, when u say must be booked in my Chassis No, when i rang up to book i made it clear it was prior to Reg'ing, but he didnt need any details there, so just said the time i wanted and that was that  ____________________ 2007 Kawasaki ZX10R :: 1998 Kawasaki ZX-9R - SOLD
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Hi
You cannot register a bike without it being insured. You get the tax disk when you register it (you pay for the tax disk and the first registration fee at the DVLA).
He has not taken the chassis number as he is not assuming you are riding it there.
It surprised me you can do it (and probably worth confirming you still can), but I was told you can by some friends who built kit cars, confirmed it with the MOT tester and a couple of coppers.
A bike must be MOTed to be used on the road but there is a specific exemption for travelling to and from the MOT station for a pre arranged MOT, which conventionally requires that the vehicle is booked in with the registration number (ie, police could walk into the MOT station and read the appointments book to see that A123BCD is due in). With no registration number the chassis number will have to do.
All the best
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| Kickstart wrote: |
It surprised me you can do it (and probably worth confirming you still can), but I was told you can by some friends who built kit cars, confirmed it with the MOT tester and a couple of coppers.
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Supprised by what?
Also, i wish i knew that before as ive had to hire out a van to get it there, and i dought i can get insurence for it tomrow morning, before 10:00, lol ...
And ims ure you can Reg it without getting your Taz at the same time, so you dont need to insure it , *goes to see if he can find the answer* ... Sorry to be a neusence and not beleive you 100%, but i was sure but no im questioning myself, lol, i thought about the insurence today when reading through some of the leaflets and forms etc ... ____________________ 2007 Kawasaki ZX10R :: 1998 Kawasaki ZX-9R - SOLD
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I know it might be a pain, but could you describe what you did to Reg your bike, as im in panic mode if i dont have everything i need  ____________________ 2007 Kawasaki ZX10R :: 1998 Kawasaki ZX-9R - SOLD
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What Docs did you have?
As i dont have any Docs from the Previouse use or owner etc, all i have is the bike and the sales receipt and the letter stating the year of manufacture (Over 10yrs old, so only needing MOT, dont think ill need SVA or any others) ...
Thanks.
Luke.
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Yer, thats basically what i've got ... with two invoices from the Seller ...
I think then all i need now is to get it insured, then get myself to the DVLA centre, or if my parents wont take me, then post it off (dont want to post as it'll take yonks, lol ... perhaps the offering of a car wash and making the dinner will suffice for a trip into Nottingham from the Burton area ) ...
I wish i new i could of Ridden it if i had the insurence as it would of saved alot of hassle and the forking out of the van ...
Right o, so i'll have to organise some insurence and does it cost more to Insure it under a Chassis number only?
Thanks.
Luke.
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Ah another DVLA thread.
When you Reg a bike in the UK you have to pay for 6 months road tax, the minimum. Yes you need insurance to register a vehicle.
You may not ride an unregistered vehicle to an MOT UNLESS it is registered in another country and you have the plates for that country on the bike. No plates = no riding to the MOT. The bike must also be insured.
The DVLA's attitude that you can't drive a vehicle registered on foreign plates to an inspection is very questionable especially if they are EU plates.
There is an old obscure Customs and excise law thats states no citizen of the UK may drive a vehicle registered in a foreign country on UK soil but this is very rarely enforced these days.
Incidently I found out 2 weeks ago that a friend put her bike in my name 2 years ago that I have stored for her for the last 5 years. I have never received a log book for the bike even though she has an acknowledgement letter from the DVLA. They are crap. |
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Just wondering, when u Reg'd your bikes, did they have plates or something that allowed them to be dereg'd in the country of origin, as mine doesn't have anything to doing with its past ...
As to getting there, it doesnt matter about riding it now, as i have a van for it, so i dont think ill be able to get insurence in the morning anyways, so that doesnt matter any more ...
Im just worried incase i dont have the right Docs, or if something is missing ...
Also, why are there never many people who have Reg'd imported bikes, or are you (Kickstart) the only one willing to lend your advice concerning Reg'ing lol ...
Thanks.
Luke.
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BTW, been on that site many times and read through all the leaflets and booklets i have and nothing is in simple terms of what i need and what to do ... lol, so sorry for pestering you ,  ____________________ 2007 Kawasaki ZX10R :: 1998 Kawasaki ZX-9R - SOLD
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| alien.46.uk wrote: | Just wondering, when u Reg'd your bikes, did they have plates or something that allowed them to be dereg'd in the country of origin, as mine doesn't have anything to doing with its past ... |
Nope, deregistered means no registration plates in Italy. They have to be returned.
| alien.46.uk wrote: | Also, why are there never many people who have Reg'd imported bikes, or are you (Kickstart) the only one willing to lend your advice concerning Reg'ing lol ... |
Not many people have registered imported bikes.
| sickpup wrote: | As far as I understand it unregistered (anywhere) vehicles may not be ridden on the road unless on trade plates as no duty has been paid on them in the eyes of Customs and Excise. |
The duty to be paid is presumeably VED (as VAT will have been paid), and the same applies to any bike where the tax has run out with an exemption for going for an MOT.
| sickpup wrote: | If the vehicle for instance is registered in Italy and has been deregistered as long as the plates are retained it would be legal BUT if the plates are not retained there is no proof of duty paid. |
Difficult to know. This doc refers to an exemption for driving an unregistered vehicle to an SVA test station.
All the best
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I haven't done the reregistering business in 10 years so a lot of it probably has changed as you say.
I do need to reregister my Landrover which is on a Q plate to an age related plate but that will be a problem as well.
DVLA say I need to get it MOT'd and then take it to a DVLA centre where they will give it and the paperwork a quick look over and then issue a new No. plate on the spot for it.
Until I have the new plates fitted it will be illegal to drive on the road as the original plates will no longer be valid. DVLA don't supply plates.  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 162 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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